I'm A Self-Hating Jew: This Disturbs Me - "Gaza Children Found With Mothers’ Corpses"

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ByLoSellHi

Damn anti-semitic International Red Cross!

Or, I'm a self-hating Jew.

I'm torn.

Israeli leadership is incompetent. Not only are they engaging in immoral actions, regardless of the actions of others (which is a red herring), they are successfully labeling Israel as a moral pariah in the eyes of most of the world.

Gaza Children Found With Mothers’ Corpses

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/middleeast/09redcross.html

By ALAN COWELL
Published: January 8, 2009

PARIS — The International Committee of the Red Cross said Thursday it had discovered “shocking” scenes — including small children next to their mothers’ corpses — when its representatives gained access for the first time to parts of Gaza battered by Israeli shelling. It accused Israel of failing to meet obligations to care for the wounded in areas of combat.

In response, the Israeli military did not comment directly on the allegation. In a statement, it accused Hamas, its foe in Gaza, of deliberately using “Palestinian civilians as human shields” and said the Israeli Army “works in close cooperation with international aid organizations during the fighting so that civilians can be provided with assistance.”

The Israeli military “in no way intentionally targets civilians and has demonstrated its willingness to abort operations to save civilian lives and to risk injury in order to assist innocent civilians,” the statement said, promising that “any serious allegation” would “need to be investigated properly, once such a complaint is received formally, within the constraints of the current military operation.”

In an unusually blunt criticism, the Geneva-based International Committee of the Red Cross said it had been seeking access to shell-damaged areas in Zeitoun in the east of Gaza City since Saturday but the Israeli authorities granted permission only on Wednesday — the first day that Israel allowed a three-hour lull in the attacks on Gaza on humanitarian grounds.

The statement said a team of four Palestine Red Crescent ambulances accompanied by Red Cross representatives made its way to Zeitoun Wednesday where it “found four small children next to their dead mothers in one of the houses. They were too weak to stand up on their own. One man was also found alive, too weak to stand up. In all, there were at least 12 corpses lying on mattresses.”

In another house, the statement said, the rescue team “found 15 other survivors of this attack including several wounded. In yet another house, they found an additional three corpses. Israeli soldiers posted at a military position some 80 meters away from this house ordered the rescue team to leave the area which they refused to do. There were several other positions of the Israeli Defense Forces nearby as well as two tanks.”

Because of berms built by Israeli forces, the ambulances could not enter the area so “the children and the wounded had to be taken to the ambulances on a donkey cart,” the statement said.

The statement quoted Pierre Wettach, an International Red Cross representative for Israel and the Palestinian areas, as calling the incident “shocking.”

“The Israeli military must have been aware of the situation but did not assist the wounded. Neither did they make it possible for us or the Palestine Red Crescent to assist the wounded,” he was quoted as saying.

The statement said the international Red Cross “believes that in this instance the Israeli military failed to meet its obligation under international humanitarian law to care for and evacuate the wounded. It considers the delay in allowing rescue services access unacceptable.”
 
Quote from ByLoSellHi:

Damn anti-semitic International Red Cross!

Or, I'm a self-hating Jew.

I'm torn.

Israeli leadership is incompetent. Not only are they engaging in immoral actions, regardless of the actions of others (which is a red herring), they are successfully labeling Israel as a moral pariah in the eyes of most of the world.

Gaza Children Found With Mothers’ Corpses

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/middleeast/09redcross.html

By ALAN COWELL
Published: January 8, 2009

PARIS — The International Committee of the Red Cross said Thursday it had discovered “shocking” scenes — including small children next to their mothers’ corpses — when its representatives gained access for the first time to parts of Gaza battered by Israeli shelling. It accused Israel of failing to meet obligations to care for the wounded in areas of combat.

In response, the Israeli military did not comment directly on the allegation. In a statement, it accused Hamas, its foe in Gaza, of deliberately using “Palestinian civilians as human shields” and said the Israeli Army “works in close cooperation with international aid organizations during the fighting so that civilians can be provided with assistance.”

The Israeli military “in no way intentionally targets civilians and has demonstrated its willingness to abort operations to save civilian lives and to risk injury in order to assist innocent civilians,” the statement said, promising that “any serious allegation” would “need to be investigated properly, once such a complaint is received formally, within the constraints of the current military operation.”

In an unusually blunt criticism, the Geneva-based International Committee of the Red Cross said it had been seeking access to shell-damaged areas in Zeitoun in the east of Gaza City since Saturday but the Israeli authorities granted permission only on Wednesday — the first day that Israel allowed a three-hour lull in the attacks on Gaza on humanitarian grounds.

The statement said a team of four Palestine Red Crescent ambulances accompanied by Red Cross representatives made its way to Zeitoun Wednesday where it “found four small children next to their dead mothers in one of the houses. They were too weak to stand up on their own. One man was also found alive, too weak to stand up. In all, there were at least 12 corpses lying on mattresses.”

In another house, the statement said, the rescue team “found 15 other survivors of this attack including several wounded. In yet another house, they found an additional three corpses. Israeli soldiers posted at a military position some 80 meters away from this house ordered the rescue team to leave the area which they refused to do. There were several other positions of the Israeli Defense Forces nearby as well as two tanks.”

Because of berms built by Israeli forces, the ambulances could not enter the area so “the children and the wounded had to be taken to the ambulances on a donkey cart,” the statement said.

The statement quoted Pierre Wettach, an International Red Cross representative for Israel and the Palestinian areas, as calling the incident “shocking.”

“The Israeli military must have been aware of the situation but did not assist the wounded. Neither did they make it possible for us or the Palestine Red Crescent to assist the wounded,” he was quoted as saying.

The statement said the international Red Cross “believes that in this instance the Israeli military failed to meet its obligation under international humanitarian law to care for and evacuate the wounded. It considers the delay in allowing rescue services access unacceptable.”
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every bomb dropped on gaza says"made in usa".
 
Whenever an enemy force deliberately uses their own women and children as human shields, incidents like this are practically inevitable.

Without knowing any particulars of this case, I'd have to admit that it looks like Israel still has room for improvement regarding the treatment of civilian non-combatants... but at least they try to abide by the Geneva Convention- which is more than can be said for the other side.
 
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every bomb dropped on gaza says"made in usa".
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Every piece of military equipment is made somewhere... what is your point.

Are the manufacturers to be held liable? The countries who domicile them? What rule of international law are you suggesting.
 
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Every piece of military equipment is made somewhere... what is your point.

Are the manufacturers to be held liable? The countries who domicile them? What rule of international law are you suggesting.
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not taking sides but it does us no good.
 
The irony is Israel has just shown that it is at the same level as any other terrorist organisation, use same tactics, terrorising the population. Israel can not claim any self-righteousness , they have no honour. No difference to Hamas with their rockets fired in civilian areas.
 
How could israel take over palestine?

Start a war, declare peace, tell it in the media, kill palestine children from helicopters or on the israeli controled borders until hamas gets elected again and starts to fire "rockets", use the right for self defense, flatten them and take over another piece of palestine. This way they took over nearly the whole country.
All by self defense of course.

Because palestine never was a state ( kind of like the american indians never declared a state because they didnt think someone from another world would come and steal their land ) palestines got raped and killed by people who really wanted their land. All legal by western standards.

Today the jews own 80% of palestine and still no one is asking how this is possible.

In my eyes israel is the cancer and hamas the antibodys that fights the cancer. At least the body ( palestines ) recognises the cancer and fight it. Cancer is only deadly because the body doesnt recognises it as a sickness. Sadly jews own the western media and have unlimited resources from usa and rich foreign jews.
This is why the cancer won over the body and no one helped the palestines.

I wonder why none of the surounding countrys is helping their religious friends?
They all have same religion but watch how israelis kill unarmed people in a ghetto. Hamas are not terrorists, they are people that do what everyone would do when their neighbours permanetly kills their children and holds their economy on the knees. They are practically unarmed. No tanks, helis or the like. 1.5 palestines against 3.5 high-tech armed jews.
What do they think will happen with the rest of palestine?

Bomb the 3.5 mil fuckers out of there. They broke every rule in the book. This is not self defense its systematic genocide over many decades.
Or watch how the rest will be killed or starved to death too.

When un finally started to act in kosovo 15 years ago, it was already to late and over and most people were killed.
 
 
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Whenever an enemy force deliberately uses their own women and children as human shields, incidents like this are practically inevitable.

Without knowing any particulars of this case, I'd have to admit that it looks like Israel still has room for improvement regarding the treatment of civilian non-combatants... but at least they try to abide by the Geneva Convention- which is more than can be said for the other side.
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Israel is making the worse crimes that history has ever known.

Reader: Pay attention what that piece of shit (Rearden Meta), and how he defends his crimes. It is like a criminal killing your children, and ReardenMeta (RM) comes out as a witness and member of the crime, and tells you that the criminal while he just kill you and your children, the criminal has room to improve, and that while he commited he is at least aware of the law but since his victim tries to defend himself the criminal says that he has to kill other people around his victim.

The criminal is Israel. Victims are Palestinians.

ReardenMetal:

Whatever they have taught you about the lands and assets you stole from Palestinians (in addition to the crimes you committed), the day will come when all those assets will be regained by the Palestinians, and justice for the crimes will be known.

You can write all sort of lies, manipulate current goverments to make them lobby for your thefts, and crimes. However, you will NOT WIN in the long run. Get that to you head. You will never change the truth which is that you stole the lands, lifes, and assets of Palestinians.

Palestine is palestinian, and for palestinians only! And Palestine is more that Gaza and Westbank.
 
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