Illinois set to pass Forced Confiscation of All Semiautos

Quote from futurecurrents:

Well then maybe we need to ban external magazines altogether. An internal magazine of five should be plenty for hunting. Handguns should also be banned. No good reason for them. A shotgun is perfectly adequate for home defense. The close-quarter argument is a feeble one at best.

Let's say handguns are banned. Do you really think they will just disappear from the market? Com'on now, you can't have your head that far in the clouds. Bans don't work. How can you argue that having weed illegal does nothing to stop sales or use, and yet seem to think this issue will be any different? Where there is a market there will be someone to feed that market. Your ban will remove handguns from most law biding citizens, criminals will ignore the law completely, and the pissed off husband will blast his wife with a shotgun instead of a pistol. Where's the upside?
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

Well then maybe we need to ban external magazines altogether. An internal magazine of five should be plenty for hunting. Handguns should also be banned. No good reason for them. A shotgun is perfectly adequate for home defense. The close-quarter argument is a feeble one at best.


Handguns are a lot better for home protection, it is also easier to keep them locked up. Many women will not be able to use shotgun properly. Banning handguns make zero sense.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

If she chooses to live with a felon or has the misfortune to have someone in her household classified as mentally ill, then yes. I am ok with it. If she needs protection, then she should save her money and spend it on a nice security system, dog and taser.

Or limit her to a shotgun.
Sorry but the second amendment doesn't have as asterisk beside it conditional upon your residential status.
That would certainly be a violation of their civil rights IMHO.
now of course the felon is a separate case and having a firearm in the Home could pose a risk for the felons violation with risk to "HIS" PROSECUTION"

But to advocate violating someone's civil rights because of their domestic/residential status, TSING YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.

Besides what if the felon never disclosed his status?

Think about it, your opening a whole can of worms placing the onus /punishment on the innocent.

Not exactly the way civil rights should be denied in my opinion.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

A shotgun is perfectly adequate for home defense. The close-quarter argument is a feeble one at best.
well that might be if you were strong enough to pick one up.

But for you ,just call 911 and run down the street screaming "fire" is my suggestion.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

No, absolutely not. But I think there should more gun control.

How about a ban on lever action 30-30 rifles?

You DO want to ban RedDukes 9mm handgun.

I think it was the publix guy that wants a total gun ban.

Redduke and futurecurrents only want to ban other people's property, not their own.
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

Sorry but the second amendment doesn't have as asterisk beside it conditional upon your residential status.
That would certainly be a violation of their civil rights IMHO.
now of course the felon is a separate case and having a firearm in the Home could pose a risk for the felons violation with risk to "HIS" PROSECUTION"

But to advocate violating someone's civil rights because of their domestic/residential status, TSING YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.

Besides what if the felon never disclosed his status?

Think about it, your opening a whole can of worms placing the onus /punishment on the innocent.

Not exactly the way civil rights should be denied in my opinion.

So it's ok for a felon to have their rights trampled but not someone mentally insane.

I didn't say anything about the effectiveness of said gun checks, just that they're should be some. Having those in place will be the concession I'm willing to make.
 
Quote from RedDuke:

Handguns are a lot better for home protection, it is also easier to keep them locked up. Many women will not be able to use shotgun properly. Banning handguns make zero sense.

I disagree. A semi-auto shotgun is a better weapon. Keeping one under the bed with a trigger lock is easy. Women can handle a shotgun just as easily as a handgun, if they can't maybe they shouldn't have either. They're just as likely to shoot themselves. My 15 yo daughter has shot a shotgun and an M1 and had no problem with either, and she's a girly girl.


Banning handguns makes lots of sense. Handguns are easily concealed and are the first choice for someone trying to sneak a gun into someplace and start shooting people. Carrying a shotgun tends to get noticed.

The only reason gun-nuts don't want handguns and assault weapons banned is because they like their toys. Not some noble adherence to "freedom" or the constitution. Their arrested-development childishness and paranoia is no reason to have to endure classrooms full of dead kids or massacres in theaters.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

I disagree. A semi-auto shotgun is a better weapon. Keeping one under the bed with a trigger lock is easy. Women can handle a shotgun just as easily as a handgun, if they can't maybe they shouldn't have either. They're just as likely to shoot themselves. My 15 yo daughter has shot a shotgun and an M1 and had no problem with either, and she's a girly girl.


Banning handguns makes lots of sense. Handguns are easily concealed and are the first choice for someone trying to sneak a gun into someplace and start shooting people. Carrying a shotgun tends to get noticed.

The only reason gun-nuts don't want handguns and assault weapons banned is because they like their toys. Not some noble adherence to "freedom" or the constitution. Their arrested-development childishness and paranoia is no reason to have to endure classrooms full of dead kids or massacres in theaters.

Hand guns are much better for home defense. Shotguns have all sorts of issues navigating corners and tight spaces in homes. Yes, nothing beats the sound of one loading to scare someone shitless, but a hand gun is better designed for close quarter and tight space combat.

And don't be a fucking idiot and link handguns to the reasons there are dead kids and classrooms. You just make yourself sound like an imbecile.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

Banning handguns makes lots of sense.

RedDuke, you paying attention? This is one of your fellow gun control advocates.
You may want to reconsider whose team you want to be on.
 
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