IL state income taxes to go up 75%?!?!?!?!?!

From the Dennis Gartman Letter:

CAN ILLINOIS REALLY BE THAT
STUPID?: Illinois is, for all intents, insolvent. We
can let the accountants and the lawyers take issue with
this statement for we are not accountants here and
certainly we are not lawyers writing TGL each day, but
from our perspective this is our perception of that
important Midwestern state, once our home. Spending
has gotten out of hand in the “People’s Republic of
Chicago,” and it is taking the rest of Illinois down with
it. As Lily Tomlin used to day, “And that’s the truth!”
What concerns us is Illinois’ approach to fixing the

What concerns us is Illinois’ approach to fixing the
problem. Rather than chopping spending on frivolous
programs, Illinois is taking the Left’s preferred way to
fix the problem: it is raising taxes on its citizens and it
is raising them violently. Facing insolvency… and
ahead of a new, more Republican legislature that was
to be seated yesterday… the out-going state
legislature pushed through a 67% state income tax
increase!. The sheer audacity of that move still has us
in awe… and shock. The measure passed the state’s
House of Representatives a few nights ago on a 60-57
vote and then passed through the Senate in the wee
hours of the next morning 30-29 vote. This is utter and
complete nonsense; this is governance of the first and
worst type.

We watched yesterday then as the Governor of
Indiana, “Mitch” Daniels, openly applauded the
decision made by the legislators to his west, knowing
that his state shall be the beneficiary of jobs and
businesses that shall be leaving Illinois and making
their way to Indiana to escape this tax increase. At the
margin, this will indeed happen, and at the upper end
of income levels this will happen even more
substantively. Attorneys that can do business from
anywhere will, at the margin, leave Chicago and make
their way to Indiana [Ed. Note: We do acknowledge
that some may not consider this a benefit to the good
people of Indiana.]. Accountants will do the same;
doctors from Chicago and from downstate within miles
of the Indiana/Illinois border will do so also.
Manufacturing jobs on the south side of Chicago will,
where possible, fold their operations there and make
their way to Indiana.

Up north, retail operations on Chicago’s north shore
will pack up and move to the suburbs of Milwaukee in
Wisconsin. The “arb” between real estate values in
northern Illinois and southern Wisconsin, or between
south side Chicago and western Indiana will narrow in
the favour of Wisconsin and Indiana following this
idiocy by the Illinois’ legislature.
We are willing to bet that two years hence, even with
the economy doing better nationally, that Illinois’ overall
tax “take” from its citizens will be lower than where it
was in ’10 while the tax revenues raised by Indiana
and Wisconsin shall be higher. The “good” done by the
legislators of Illinois for the states of Indiana and
Wisconsin should be applauded… and will be… by the
good people of the latter two states, and should be
condemned… and will be… by the citizens of Illinois.
Can Illinois really be that stupid? Apparently it can be.
 
Quote from bpcnabe:

The same could be said for all you rednecks that still come to NYC looking for "that Ground Zero Thing" 10 yrs after the "act" with your fractured grasp of the English language and dragging your little overweight heart attacks in the making wearing their little "Jeff Foxworthy Is God t-shirts", walking 5 abreast on the sidewalks staring up at the buildings with mouths agape . I swear you rednecks just embarrass the rest of us white folk. Please put up a wall, but use it to keep y'all in.

How touching. Tolerance and acceptance from a totally colorblind, non-bigot that is as humble as Texas is big. No sir, not an ounce of conceit, arrogance, or prejudice in that post.
 
Quote from Roark:

How touching. Tolerance and acceptance from a totally colorblind, non-bigot that is as humble as Texas is big. No sir, not an ounce of conceit, arrogance, or prejudice in that post.

Let him rant, Roark. The little brother seems completely clueless.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

Most of any state's revenue comes from 3 sources... sales, property, and income tax.

Some states have no state income tax, but high property taxes.

Some states have high taxes in all areas... perhaps best not to live in one of those. (11+% Sales Tax isn't as big a deal as high RE or Income tax... High RE taxes are oppressive. Over 20 years, more than half the value of the property can be taxed away... and if you don't pay, your property can be confiscated... that's all WRONG!)

Depending upon one's income situation, would be wise to choose a state where your overall tax situation is more favorable.

That's what I like about CO. I think we are pretty balanced.
 
I hate to resurrect this thread cause its so depressing but this article will interest some, background note Ari Emanuel is a hollywood agent, (see entourage), hence the hollywood connection. don't live in Chi so doesn't effect me, looks like business as usual. If he doesn't get elected I would be shocked, although the jury is out on the resident thing.

http://www.suntimes.com/3426204-418/chicago-emanuel-hollywood-fund-calif.html

having trouble with the link here is the story:


By Abdon M. PallascH

Political Reporterapallasch@suntimes.com

Last Modified: Jan 23, 2011 11:34AM
Local and national hedge fund managers and movie industry moguls helped mayoral hopeful Rahm Emanuel collect more than $10 million in a mere three months for his mayoral run.

Twenty-four supporters gave $100,000 or more to the campaign before new limits on contributions kicked in Jan. 1. Now individuals can give only $5,000 each per election cycle, so director Steven Spielberg would not be able to give the $75,000 he donated last year.

Emanuel’s rivals for the mayor’s seat find those big-dollar contributions — especially the out-of-town ones — worrisome.

“This ... is an obscene amount of money,” said City Clerk Miguel del Valle. “This is Chicago. We should not be picking a mayor of the city of Chicago based on what Hollywood star or what Hollywood tycoon is able to provide ... funding for the mayoral candidate.”

Del Valle conceded Spielberg was probably not looking for a city contract.

“We’ve raised nearly $3 million, the vast majority of our money has come from the Chicagoland area,” said former School Board Chief Gery Chico. “Rahm Emanuel has raised that much from outside the city, Hollywood.”

But Emanuel said his successful friends will be as willing to give money to worthy causes in Chicago as they are to his campaign.

“I am proud and happy that Steve Jobs, who runs Apple, one of the most successful CEOs, supported that campaign,” Emanuel said. “Eric Schmidt from Google, supported the candidacy, Google has a big operation in Chicago. Eli Broad, one of the big philanthropists who sponsors and funds education reform, has supported the candidacy, These are the people, on behalf of Chicago, I will be, not owing them, but some of the people I will be calling upon when I talk about a public-private partnertship, a race to the top, for Chicago for education reform, to invest in ... better quality teachers. I will be calling upon those individuals to join Chicago and invest in Chicago’s future.”

Three quarters of his contributors are local, Emanuel said, but he could not say what percentage of the cash was from local contributors.

Here are the members of Emanuels’ $100,000 Club:

■ The Chicago Mercantile Exchange: $200,000.

■ Haim & Cheryl Saban of Beverly Hills, Calif. Saban Entertainment. He’s the CEO of the Fox Family Network and creator of the Power Rangers movies. Combined they gave more than half-a million dollars. The campaign refunded $300,000, because, Emanuel said, “I set a cap [of $200,000 per couple] and so Haim Saban [is] somebody I will be calling upon to invest in Chicago so I can get schools to the quality the people here want.”

■ David and Diane Heller of Chicago. He’s the investment manager of Advisory Research: $200,000.

The following donors gave $100,000 each:

■ Blue Media LLC, a Chicago-based private equity and consulting firm. Eric Lefkofsky, president.

■ Netscape founder James Clark, Palm Beach, Fla.

■ Donald Edwards, Edwards, Enterprises LLC, Chicago.

■ Newsweb Executive Fred Eychaner, of Chicago, a longtime donor to Democrats on the national and local level.

■ John Fogelman of Los Angeles, Calif., a Hollywood agent and partner of Emanuel’s brother, Ari.

■ Hollywood mogul David Geffen of Beverly Hills, Calif.

■ Retired hedge fund manager Howard Gottlieb of Evanston

■ Anne Dias Griffin, managing partner of Aragon Global Management of Chicago.

■ Kenneth Griffin, president, Citadel Investment Group of Chicago

■ Kristen Hayler Hertel, a Winnetka homemaker.

■ Matthew Hulsizer of Winnetka, Hedge fund manager, CEO of Peak6 Investments; aspiring owner of the Phoenix Coyotes.

■ Shahid R. Kahn of Champaign, Ill. Executive of Flex-n-gate.

■ David Kronfeld, president of JK&B Capital of Chicago

■ Howard Labkon, recycler, General Iron Industries of Chicago.

■ John Morgan, of Minneapolis, CEO of Winmark Corp.

■ Timothy Mullen of Chicago, self-employed private investor

■ Sean Parker, of Berkeley, Calif., a co-founder of Napster and Facebook portrayed by Justin Timberlake in The Social Network.

■ Michael Sacks, Managing partner of Grosvenor Capital Management of Chicago.

■ Sterling Fund Management LLC, of Northbrook.

Contributing: Chris Fusco, Tim Novak
 
Quote from kinggyppo:

I hate to resurrect this thread cause its so depressing but this article will interest some, background note Ari Emanuel is a hollywood agent, (see entourage), hence the hollywood connection. don't live in Chi so doesn't effect me, looks like business as usual. If he doesn't get elected I would be shocked, although the jury is out on the resident thing.

http://www.suntimes.com/3426204-418/chicago-emanuel-hollywood-fund-calif.html

having trouble with the link here is the story:


By Abdon M. PallascH

Political Reporterapallasch@suntimes.com

Last Modified: Jan 23, 2011 11:34AM
Local and national hedge fund managers and movie industry moguls helped mayoral hopeful Rahm Emanuel collect more than $10 million in a mere three months for his mayoral run.

Twenty-four supporters gave $100,000 or more to the campaign before new limits on contributions kicked in Jan. 1. Now individuals can give only $5,000 each per election cycle, so director Steven Spielberg would not be able to give the $75,000 he donated last year.

Emanuel’s rivals for the mayor’s seat find those big-dollar contributions — especially the out-of-town ones — worrisome.

“This ... is an obscene amount of money,” said City Clerk Miguel del Valle. “This is Chicago. We should not be picking a mayor of the city of Chicago based on what Hollywood star or what Hollywood tycoon is able to provide ... funding for the mayoral candidate.”

Del Valle conceded Spielberg was probably not looking for a city contract.

“We’ve raised nearly $3 million, the vast majority of our money has come from the Chicagoland area,” said former School Board Chief Gery Chico. “Rahm Emanuel has raised that much from outside the city, Hollywood.”

But Emanuel said his successful friends will be as willing to give money to worthy causes in Chicago as they are to his campaign.

“I am proud and happy that Steve Jobs, who runs Apple, one of the most successful CEOs, supported that campaign,” Emanuel said. “Eric Schmidt from Google, supported the candidacy, Google has a big operation in Chicago. Eli Broad, one of the big philanthropists who sponsors and funds education reform, has supported the candidacy, These are the people, on behalf of Chicago, I will be, not owing them, but some of the people I will be calling upon when I talk about a public-private partnertship, a race to the top, for Chicago for education reform, to invest in ... better quality teachers. I will be calling upon those individuals to join Chicago and invest in Chicago’s future.”

Three quarters of his contributors are local, Emanuel said, but he could not say what percentage of the cash was from local contributors.

Here are the members of Emanuels’ $100,000 Club:

■ The Chicago Mercantile Exchange: $200,000.

■ Haim & Cheryl Saban of Beverly Hills, Calif. Saban Entertainment. He’s the CEO of the Fox Family Network and creator of the Power Rangers movies. Combined they gave more than half-a million dollars. The campaign refunded $300,000, because, Emanuel said, “I set a cap [of $200,000 per couple] and so Haim Saban [is] somebody I will be calling upon to invest in Chicago so I can get schools to the quality the people here want.”

■ David and Diane Heller of Chicago. He’s the investment manager of Advisory Research: $200,000.

The following donors gave $100,000 each:

■ Blue Media LLC, a Chicago-based private equity and consulting firm. Eric Lefkofsky, president.

■ Netscape founder James Clark, Palm Beach, Fla.

■ Donald Edwards, Edwards, Enterprises LLC, Chicago.

■ Newsweb Executive Fred Eychaner, of Chicago, a longtime donor to Democrats on the national and local level.

■ John Fogelman of Los Angeles, Calif., a Hollywood agent and partner of Emanuel’s brother, Ari.

■ Hollywood mogul David Geffen of Beverly Hills, Calif.

■ Retired hedge fund manager Howard Gottlieb of Evanston

■ Anne Dias Griffin, managing partner of Aragon Global Management of Chicago.

■ Kenneth Griffin, president, Citadel Investment Group of Chicago

■ Kristen Hayler Hertel, a Winnetka homemaker.

■ Matthew Hulsizer of Winnetka, Hedge fund manager, CEO of Peak6 Investments; aspiring owner of the Phoenix Coyotes.

■ Shahid R. Kahn of Champaign, Ill. Executive of Flex-n-gate.

■ David Kronfeld, president of JK&B Capital of Chicago

■ Howard Labkon, recycler, General Iron Industries of Chicago.

■ John Morgan, of Minneapolis, CEO of Winmark Corp.

■ Timothy Mullen of Chicago, self-employed private investor

■ Sean Parker, of Berkeley, Calif., a co-founder of Napster and Facebook portrayed by Justin Timberlake in The Social Network.

■ Michael Sacks, Managing partner of Grosvenor Capital Management of Chicago.

■ Sterling Fund Management LLC, of Northbrook.

Contributing: Chris Fusco, Tim Novak

Yeah I saw that list. They left out Donald Trump as well. I don't understand why Ken Griffin and the CME and several other big hedge fund guys are supporting Rham. There must be a lot of fear in the financial community that if an african american gets elected (Braun) that she will go after the financial industry. I just can't get over the fact that the 3rd largest city in the country has such a shitpile list of candidates to choose from for mayor. I mean f*ck. I should run. :)
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Yeah I saw that list. They left out Donald Trump as well. I don't understand why Ken Griffin and the CME and several other big hedge fund guys are supporting Rham. There must be a lot of fear in the financial community that if an african american gets elected (Braun) that she will go after the financial industry. I just can't get over the fact that the 3rd largest city in the country has such a shitpile list of candidates to choose from for mayor. I mean f*ck. I should run. :)

to me its more about the trend where you have to have large dollars to compete, tv ads etc. He is being supported by some wealthy people, if you look closely at donations the truly wealthy support both sides, with maybe more going to the side they like. I think this trend will continue with the person with the most tv ads winning, doesn't say much about the iq of the average person in the US. I am sceptical that anyone these days can bring real change given the mired bureaucracy our govt has become.

business plan:

run for office raise 5 million, spend 3
create and fund charity with remaining
2 million called hookers and blow charity foundation..:p
 
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