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Ignorance on display - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
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...from his pontificating vantage point on a pub stool in an Alabama bar.
Thank you for that much more thorough account of where the number comes from (surveys). So now I would be very interested in how the Canadian National Survey compared with the province of Ontario survey. Toronto is, after all, just across a lake from the US! I imagine if you surveyed San Diego residents asking whether they had traveled to Tijuana for prescription drugs or for dental care you'd be rather astounded at the results!!! On the other hand, how wonderful the Canadian system must be that it will refer patients to specialists in another country and pay a share. Will the U.S. medicare system do that? Absolutely NOT. The Maple Leaf Forever! (How lucky you are to have had the opportunity to work in Toronto, one of the world's truly Great Cosmopolitan Cities!)Let's first outline the assertion in full - 1 in 10 Canadians have come deliberately to the U.S. to medical or healthcare services. This includes major services such as heart transplants and minor services such as teeth whitening at a dental office. The Canadian healthcare system generally can only track major medical services where the system either referred the patient directly to the U.S. or the patient required follow-up care in Canada after a procedure in the United States. Canadians coming to the U.S. fall into two categories; first those referred from the Canadian healthcare system to U.S. facilities for care (for example the Duke Heart Surgery Center in Durham, NC sees a significant number of Canadians). Second are Canadians who come on their own and pay out-of-pocket which are much harder for the Canadian government to track.
Where does the 10% figure come from? It comes from surveys where Canadian residents were asked the question if they ever deliberately traveled to the U.S. for medical or healthcare services. over a number of years the Canadian federal government performed national surveys, the province of Ontario performed a survey, and media outlets such as the National Post performed a surveys which included question about those who left Canada for medical services.
Having worked in Toronto for several years; I say it was fairly common for people to drive to the U.S. for medical services. Need your teeth whitened at a Dentist; why wait three months -- make an appointment for next week in the U.S. and drive down. While you are in the U.S. you might as well do multiple chores including getting new tires on your car which are much cheaper in the U.S. than at Canadian Tire. (Just remember to scuff up the wheels and put dirt on them to make them look used before crossing the border back into Canada).
At this point I have provided several information sources that reference the information. Previously I have posted a significant number of sources that outline the information. Folks who want to be educated can read the links and learn. Those who desire to push their fact-free political agenda will obviously ignore the content of the links and post continuously I am liar while continuing to wallow in their deliberate ignorance.
Canadians crossing border to Western New York hospitals for care
https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo...1-000-canadians-treated-at-wny-hospitals.html
Old Report from 1998 from Ontario -
Canadians' Use Of U.S. Medical Services
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.17.1.225
Evolving medical tourism in Canada
https://www2.deloitte.com/content/d...-medical-tourism-exploring-a-new-frontier.pdf
Canada’s turbulent medical tourism industry
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3325443/
Medical tourism profile for Canada: Statistics and data | IMTJ
https://www.imtj.com/country/CA/
Wait-Times in Canada: Outbound Medical Tourism Opportunities
https://www.medicaltourismmag.com/wait-times-in-canada-outbound-medical-tourism-opportunities/
Canada resists health-care reform, despite overwhelming evidence we need it
Health-care reform could resonate with Canadians if politicians got the messaging right. But they first need to disabuse the public of the fantasy that our system is first-rate
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/lauren-heuser
Why Canada’s ‘best’ health-care system just got ranked last — again
William Watson: In a New York Times contest of the world's top health-care systems, Canada didn't win. In fact, we were eliminated in the first round
https://business.financialpost.com/...health-care-system-just-got-ranked-last-again
Let's first outline the assertion in full - 1 in 10 Canadians have come deliberately to the U.S. to medical or healthcare services. This includes major services such as heart transplants and minor services such as teeth whitening at a dental office. The Canadian healthcare system generally can only track major medical services where the system either referred the patient directly to the U.S. or the patient required follow-up care in Canada after a procedure in the United States. Canadians coming to the U.S. fall into two categories; first those referred from the Canadian healthcare system to U.S. facilities for care (for example the Duke Heart Surgery Center in Durham, NC sees a significant number of Canadians). Second are Canadians who come on their own and pay out-of-pocket which are much harder for the Canadian government to track.
Where does the 10% figure come from? It comes from surveys where Canadian residents were asked the question if they ever deliberately traveled to the U.S. for medical or healthcare services. over a number of years the Canadian federal government performed national surveys, the province of Ontario performed a survey, and media outlets such as the National Post performed a surveys which included question about those who left Canada for medical services.
Having worked in Toronto for several years; I say it was fairly common for people to drive to the U.S. for medical services. Need your teeth whitened at a Dentist; why wait three months -- make an appointment for next week in the U.S. and drive down. While you are in the U.S. you might as well do multiple chores including getting new tires on your car which are much cheaper in the U.S. than at Canadian Tire. (Just remember to scuff up the wheels and put dirt on them to make them look used before crossing the border back into Canada).
At this point I have provided several information sources that reference the information. Previously I have posted a significant number of sources that outline the information. Folks who want to be educated can read the links and learn. Those who desire to push their fact-free political agenda will obviously ignore the content of the links and post continuously I am liar while continuing to wallow in their deliberate ignorance.
Canadians crossing border to Western New York hospitals for care
https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo...1-000-canadians-treated-at-wny-hospitals.html
Old Report from 1998 from Ontario -
Canadians' Use Of U.S. Medical Services
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.17.1.225
Evolving medical tourism in Canada
https://www2.deloitte.com/content/d...-medical-tourism-exploring-a-new-frontier.pdf
Canada’s turbulent medical tourism industry
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3325443/
Medical tourism profile for Canada: Statistics and data | IMTJ
https://www.imtj.com/country/CA/
Wait-Times in Canada: Outbound Medical Tourism Opportunities
https://www.medicaltourismmag.com/wait-times-in-canada-outbound-medical-tourism-opportunities/
Canada resists health-care reform, despite overwhelming evidence we need it
Health-care reform could resonate with Canadians if politicians got the messaging right. But they first need to disabuse the public of the fantasy that our system is first-rate
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/lauren-heuser
Why Canada’s ‘best’ health-care system just got ranked last — again
William Watson: In a New York Times contest of the world's top health-care systems, Canada didn't win. In fact, we were eliminated in the first round
https://business.financialpost.com/...health-care-system-just-got-ranked-last-again
can you believe this guy? GTFOH with teeth whitening and more towering high bullcrap from mr no source for his "10%" but his own butt.
the point is proven, conservatives here do not much challenge our own maniacs. treefrogtrader and scataphagos are off dial, gwbtrading is an out of control bullcrapper. how he makes a living trading is beyond me.
can you believe this guy? GTFOH with teeth whitening and more towering high bullcrap from mr no source for his "10%" but his own butt.
the point is proven, conservatives here do not much challenge our own maniacs. treefrogtrader and scataphagos are off dial, gwbtrading is an out of control bullcrapper. how he makes a living trading is beyond me.
It is a shame that you are incapable of reading the information at the links to educate yourself on the facts.
It is a shame that you are incapable of reading the information at the links to educate yourself on the facts.
It is a shame your daddy did not whup you more.
I would like to read GWBtradings posts on trading. is there a journal?
I would like to read GWBtradings posts on trading. is there a journal?
Gee... where are your posts on trading? 44 posts and not a single one on trading.
But your alias is simply a new alias for nine_ender, volpunter, or one of the other hateful left-wing trolls.
Gee... where are your posts on trading? 44 posts and not a single one on trading.
But your alias is simply a new alias for nine_ender, volpunter, or one of the other hateful left-wing trolls.
I am in the process of reading the "best of ET threads" which I found searching for something but I have made several small small posts on the trading threads.
I will search for yours.
nothing to find but politics and chit-chat. I have seen posts in the best of posts by scataphagos and treefrogtrader (i think?) but not one from GWBtrading. ok, show me your trading and I will reward this by not posting for a week.
nothing to find but politics and chit-chat. I have seen posts in the best of posts by scataphagos and treefrogtrader (i think?) but not one from GWBtrading. ok, show me your trading and I will reward this by not posting for a week.
Just one of many....
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/oddball-s-p-500-system.6309/page-2#post-78525
Now go bugger off and do not post for a week. Under any of your aliases.