ig0r Swing Experiment

Quote from peterfigliozzi:

Hi ig0r, I saw one of your posts where you talked about how the Phantom book was a breakthrough for you.

I read most of it this weekend. I particulary like Rule 1, where you focus on getting out if you are not proved right, as opposed to waiting to be proved wrong.

Rule 2 makes perfect sense, to be bigger when you're right (adding), and the day trading variant of it, where you enter full size and take off as time goes on and you aren't proven right.

Anyhow, question for you: how have you applied Phantom's teachings to your recent swing trades?

Haha, yes, it was a break through for me. To tell you the truth they are not applied fully to my swing trades in this journal for several reasons. The biggest problem here is that I am day trading without being at the computer (buying at open and putting in sell order about an hour into the day), so I have no way to manage the trade. My goal for this system is to take advantage of a perceived edge that I have found, I am betting on the belief that I have a statistical advantage to my entries and have found this to be so a large percentage of the time. Rule 2 doesn't exist in my methodology in this journal because of my profit target, if it is reached intraday then I am most likely out of the position, without the ability to day trade I have no ability to add to my winners. You'll see some aspects of rule 1 in my trading, I trade with no stops, rather I analyze the correctness of my position; the reason why I hang on to losses on occasion is because the market situation that I use for my entries seems to still be intact, the institutional buying that I look for can still very well come. Hope this answers some questions, in a few months I may have an extra 5k or so and may devote that to another journal where I plan to swing trade with longer holds (5-15 days) and follow the rules layed down by the phantom very strictly :)

Oh, just wanted to add that my automated bonds trading script that I currently run profitably is based from the ground up on his rules. If you wish, I'll share the basics of it at least, maybe this weekend if I have time.
 
Quote from ig0r:

Not much I particularly liked in my normal price range so taking one a little bit higher up, found by a friend who's entering into a swing trade with it. Taking GMAI at limit 11.13 exiting at 11.36.

BUY 243 shares of GMAI, Greg Manning Auctions
at LIMIT of 11.13 DAY

1/5/04
Current Equity: $2,762.06
Starting Equity: $2,500.00 (1/1/04)
Current Return: 10.48%
2 Winners/0 Losers

Past Trades
IONA 6.59% 1/2/04
GMAI 2.07% 1/5/04
 
Pickin' up 936 SITI tomorrow at 2.95, this looks like a good entry for a swing trade up over the next few days but I'd rather stick to the plan, don't like managing these kind of positions EOD

BUY 936 shares of SITI, Sls Intl Inc
at LIMIT of 2.95 DAY
 
Quote from ig0r:

Pickin' up 936 SITI tomorrow at 2.95, this looks like a good entry for a swing trade up over the next few days but I'd rather stick to the plan, don't like managing these kind of positions EOD

BUY 936 shares of SITI, Sls Intl Inc
at LIMIT of 2.95 DAY

LOL, today should've been profitable but I messed it up. Got on comp at around 11:25, checked bigcharts (didn't have enough time to pull up real-time source) and saw 3.05 printing, I opened up freetrade and exited at market. To my surprise, I ended up filling at 2.83 (which was the bottom of that down move at around 11:25), that's what I get for exiting at market without a real-time bid/ask. Took a 4% or so loss, this shouldn't have happened but at least I learned a lesson; it really ticks me off when my system would have profited but my error caused a loss. Tomorrow's another day, actually, SITI was the only pick I liked for 1/7 so that will be my play again tomorrow, limit @ 3.

BUY 883 shares of SITI, Sls Intl Inc
at LIMIT of 3.00 DAY

1/6/04
Current Equity: $2,649.61
Starting Equity: $2,500.00 (1/1/04)
Current Return: 5.98%
2 Winners/1 Loser

Past Trades
IONA 6.59% 1/2/04
GMAI 2.07% 1/5/04
SITI -4.24% 1/6/04
 
Quote from ig0r:

LOL, today should've been profitable but I messed it up. Got on comp at around 11:25, checked bigcharts (didn't have enough time to pull up real-time source) and saw 3.05 printing, I opened up freetrade and exited at market. To my surprise, I ended up filling at 2.83 (which was the bottom of that down move at around 11:25), that's what I get for exiting at market without a real-time bid/ask. Took a 4% or so loss, this shouldn't have happened but at least I learned a lesson; it really ticks me off when my system would have profited but my error caused a loss. Tomorrow's another day, actually, SITI was the only pick I liked for 1/7 so that will be my play again tomorrow, limit @ 3.

BUY 883 shares of SITI, Sls Intl Inc
at LIMIT of 3.00 DAY

1/6/04
Current Equity: $2,649.61
Starting Equity: $2,500.00 (1/1/04)
Current Return: 5.98%
2 Winners/1 Loser

Past Trades
IONA 6.59% 1/2/04
GMAI 2.07% 1/5/04
SITI -4.24% 1/6/04

Sorry for not updating, I actually didn't have time to get on a computer to put in my SITI buy so didn't trade that day. Today I took ARTX from 1.8 to 1.84, another pick for monday will be posted this weekend.

1/9/04
Current Equity: $2,707.24
Starting Equity: $2,500.00 (1/1/04)
Current Return: 8.28%
3 Winners/1 Loser

Past Trades
IONA 6.59% 1/2/04
GMAI 2.07% 1/5/04
SITI -4.24% 1/6/04
ARTX 2.22% 1/9/04
 
Quote from ig0r:

Sorry for not updating, I actually didn't have time to get on a computer to put in my SITI buy so didn't trade that day. Today I took ARTX from 1.8 to 1.84, another pick for monday will be posted this weekend.

1/9/04
Current Equity: $2,707.24
Starting Equity: $2,500.00 (1/1/04)
Current Return: 8.28%
3 Winners/1 Loser

Past Trades
IONA 6.59% 1/2/04
GMAI 2.07% 1/5/04
SITI -4.24% 1/6/04
ARTX 2.22% 1/9/04

Good job. Enjoying your journal.
 
Didn't find anything good for today but found 2 nice ones for tomorrow, UDW and PHMD. I'm leaning towards PHMD, it looks like 2% would be pretty easy to capture in its recent ranges, so PHMD it is.

BUY 1327 shares of PHMD, PhotoMedex Inc
at LIMIT of 2.04 DAY
 
Quote from ig0r:

Didn't find anything good for today but found 2 nice ones for tomorrow, UDW and PHMD. I'm leaning towards PHMD, it looks like 2% would be pretty easy to capture in its recent ranges, so PHMD it is.

BUY 1327 shares of PHMD, PhotoMedex Inc
at LIMIT of 2.04 DAY

Filled a few seconds after open and got out a few minutes before close, talk about smooth. Btw, UDW would've been good for 2 also.

Another pick tonight, I should have pleany to pick from with today's general down move

1/13/04
Current Equity: $2,773.45
Starting Equity: $2,500.00 (1/1/04)
Current Return: 10.94%
4 Winners/1 Loser

Past Trades
IONA 6.59% 1/2/04
GMAI 2.07% 1/5/04
SITI -4.24% 1/6/04
ARTX 2.22% 1/9/04
PHMD 2.45% 1/13/04
 
I guess I was a little wrong about lots of good picks for wednesday, nothing good at all it looks like. Taking a play that I am not too confident in (but of course, who cares what I think, the market sure doesn't) because it looks like it came to life from a prelim earnings report, a little bit scared that volume will just suddenly drop off; oh well, the risks we take... OPTK is the play for tomorrow

BUY 714 shares of OPTK, Optika Inc
at LIMIT of 3.88 DAY
 
Quote from ig0r:
Oh, just wanted to add that my automated bonds trading script that I currently run profitably is based from the ground up on his rules. If you wish, I'll share the basics of it at least, maybe this weekend if I have time. [/B]


Hi, I was looking forward to reading about your bond trading technique. Can you please post to the journal or PM me?

Thanks
 
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