If you want to support a real American hero.

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I read a report that Drudge was carrying that said that Florida has a law that prohibits Neighborhood Watch volunteers from carrying weapons even if they have a permit for concealed carry.

Doesn't that strike you as a bit STUPID.


Secondarily that means one should just shun joining neighborhood watches if it means you must give up your constitutional rights to participate.

btw: What defines a neighborhood watch 2 guys verbally agreeing to watch the neighborhood or is it a legal entity of sorts with rules by laws etc etc.

See what I'm getting at here: One could have a legit CC but all of a sudden you are classified by the powers that be you are now part of a NHW program and are under arrest for a weapons charge.

Think about the stupidity and potential abuses this law entails for use by our rabid anti-gun crowd.
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

The right to bear arms and a carry permit are two different things. Everyone has a right to bear arms and while more than a few have a carry permit, most of those are not remotely qualified to carry a weapon on their person.

+1

Nor do they understand that in most circumstances it's best left in it's holster.
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:


Think about the stupidity and potential abuses this law entails for use by our rabid anti-gun crowd.

I still have trouble with the idea that when I lived in Maryland and purchased a pistol, I had to fill out a ton of forms, watch instruction videos, and wait for 14 days while all sorts of fed agencies ran background checks.

But when I bought my AR-15 with a scope from the SAME STORE it was cash and carry, no background check.
 
Obama travels to Florida later on Tuesday

woo hoo!.....:cool:

Ya think reoprters are going to ask him about the Buffett rule?
 
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Obama travels to Florida later on Tuesday

woo hoo!.....:cool:

Ya think reoprters are going to ask him about the Buffett rule?

Actually I think the govt should skip this silly ineffective buffett rule and nationalize Berkshire Hathaway.

That would solve the problem buffett complains about and generate far more federal revenue than the proposed law.
 
Regarding Neighborhood Watch and concealed carry, I haven't looked it up but what i recall was that the national NW program has a rule against carrying while on watch. This is far different from an actual law.

I can see why they would have such a rule. They are afraid of civil liability in this type of case. I can see arguments on both sides. If you are not carrying, there is no temptation to pull your gun in a tense situation. On the ohter hand, I wouldn't want to be out there in a dodgy neighborhood at night by myself with nothing.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

I'm American. I've been posting here since 2005. I'm a gun owner with some heavy iron including an M1A. I'm also a veteran decorated for expert marksmanship with the M-16.

I read a report that Drudge was carrying that said that Florida has a law that prohibits Neighborhood Watch volunteers from carrying weapons even if they have a permit for concealed carry. The police at the scene apparently weren't aware of it but Zimmerman may face a weapons charge. It may also make him liable if there is a civil lawsuit.

I've posted supporting Zimmerman for weeks now. Are you going to tell me that you didn't see those posts? Do you really think I want to see Zimmerman charged? Do you want to discuss your use of the phrase "these black thugs" in your original post? Do you think you have a right to "bear arms" on NYC, Chicago or LA streets?

I've treated you with respect for years. Don't make me regret it.

Fair enough, I apologize.

But back to the subject at hand. I can't say I've seen if there is a law in florida that (illegally) prohibits neighborhood watch volunteers from carrying a weapon, but I do know that Zimmerman was the self appointed captain of an unregistered neighborhood watch program. Since it was unregistered, he had every right to carry a weapon and the laws that you say he broke, no longer apply to him in this case.

And Yes, I think you do have a right to bear arms and walk down to times square with an m-16 over your shoulder.
 
George Zimmerman's attorneys withdraw from Trayvon Martin case.


"Craig Sonner and Hal Uhrig said at a news conference outside the Seminole County Courthhouse in Sanford, Fla., that they heard that Zimmerman on Tuesday had contacted a special prosecutor who will decide whether or not to press charges against him, against their advice.

They said they have not talked to Zimmerman, whose location is not known, in person in at least two days but in the past had spoken with him over the phone. “We can’t represent him unless he comes forward and asks us,” Uhrig said.

"We have a pretty good idea where he (Zimmerman) is," Uhrig said, but added that Zimmerman is not answering the phone.

The attorneys also expressed concern about Zimmerman's "emotional and physical safety" and said they have reservations about a website Zimmerman set up to solicit money for help in his defense.


The attorneys for George Zimmerman, Hal Uhrig, foreground, and Craig Sonner at a news conference on Tuesday.

"Him setting up his own web site is fine," Sonner said. "I wish he would have told me.”
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...orneys-withdraw-from-trayvon-martin-case?lite
 
Quote from peilthetraveler:

Fair enough, I apologize.

But back to the subject at hand. I can't say I've seen if there is a law in florida that (illegally) prohibits neighborhood watch volunteers from carrying a weapon, but I do know that Zimmerman was the self appointed captain of an unregistered neighborhood watch program. Since it was unregistered, he had every right to carry a weapon and the laws that you say he broke, no longer apply to him in this case.

And Yes, I think you do have a right to bear arms and walk down to times square with an m-16 over your shoulder.

I sent $20 this morning. I'll send more if there are any charges.
 
"When special prosecutors asked Zimmerman if he had lawyers, he said he only had legal advisers, not a lawyer, according to Uhrig and Sonner.

“I’m not sure what the distinction is, but in his mind there’s a distinction,” Uhrig said.

According to CNN, Zimmerman was told by the special prosecutor’s office that he should have legal council present if he was going to speak to them.



The lawyers also said Zimmerman had directly contacted the Sean Hannity show on Fox News without their consent or knowledge.

“George called Sean Hannity of Fox News off the record and he was unwilling to tell us what was said,” Uhrig said.

Hannity has also declined to say what was said during the conversation."

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/04/10/george-zimmermans-attorneys-withdraw-from-case/
 
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