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exGOPer said:
Huh? Proof of what that she was OCA? Try reading

Classification Authority.
(a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by:
(1) the President and the Vice President;
(2) agency heads and officials designated by the President; and


https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13526

So who was the agency head for the State department designated by Obama?
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I think you missed subsection 1.3:

All original classification authorities must receive training in proper classification (including the avoidance of over-classification) and declassification as provided in this order and its implementing directives at least once a calendar year. Such training must include instruction on the proper safeguarding of classified information and on the sanctions in section 5.5 of this order that may be brought against an individual who fails to classify information properly or protect classified information from unauthorized disclosure.


Further:

PART 3 — DECLASSIFICATION AND DOWNGRADING
Sec. 3.1.Authority for Declassification.
(a) Information shall be declassified as soon as it no longer meets the standards for classification under this order.
(b) Information shall be declassified or downgraded by:
(1) the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position and has original classification authority;
(2) the originator's current successor in function, if that individual has original classification authority;
(3) a supervisory official of either the originator or his or her successor in function, if the supervisory official has original classification authority; or
(4) officials delegated declassification authority in writing by the agency head or the senior agency official of the originating agency.



Further, penalties for not protecting classified intel:

Sec. 5.5.Sanctions.
(a) If the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office finds that a violation of this order or its implementing directives has occurred, the Director shall make a report to the head of the agency or to the senior agency official so that corrective steps, if appropriate, may be taken.
(b) Officers and employees of the United States Government, and its contractors, licensees, certificate holders, and grantees shall be subject to appropriate sanctions if they knowingly, willfully, or negligently:
(1) disclose to unauthorized persons information properly classified under this order or predecessor orders;
(2) classify or continue the classification of information in violation of this order or any implementing directive;
(3) create or continue a special access program contrary to the requirements of this order; or
(4) contravene any other provision of this order or its implementing directives.


What does this mean?

1) By law, Hillary was required to protect classified intel, which she did not. Major crime. Over 1300 instances.

2) Hillary did not have the authority to declassify intel originating outside the State Department. IOW, agency heads can only declassify within their own agency. The Department of Energy Head can't declassify a CIA drone strike kill list SAP program. Makes sense, right? Hillary and her team copied info they gained from secure, internal Pentagon comm networks. This is DOD jurisdiction. This is not State Department jurisdiction. As Secretary of State, Hillary could only declassify info related to the State Department. Further, SAP and Top Secret programs are maintained on a closed email system. No way to send info out electronically. Hillary and crew screenshotted and transcribed intel of the highest classification at Pentagon servers, and retranscribed onto home email server.

3) Hillary transcribed and copied classified intel out of laziness, if we accept her half baked excuse. Goes back to point 1.
 
Hotcakes said:
I think you missed subsection 1.3:


What does this mean?

1) By law, Hillary was required to protect classified intel, which she did not. Major crime. Over 1300 instances.

2) Hillary did not have the authority to declassify intel originating outside the State Department. IOW, agency heads can only declassify within their own agency. The Department of Energy Head can't declassify a CIA drone strike kill list SAP program. Makes sense, right? Hillary and her team copied info they gained from secure, internal Pentagon comm networks. This is DOD jurisdiction. This is not State Department jurisdiction. As Secretary of State, Hillary could only declassify info related to the State Department. Further, SAP and Top Secret programs are maintained on a closed email system. No way to send info out electronically. Hillary and crew screenshotted and transcribed intel of the highest classification at Pentagon servers, and retranscribed onto home email server.

3) Hillary transcribed and copied classified intel out of laziness, if we accept her half baked excuse. Goes back to point 1.
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1. IF she sees the material as classified, not otherwise.

2. She didn't declassify any intel outside of the state department, the material was presented to her in the declassified format by other agency employees who didn't see it as classified either. The SAP and TS programs aka drones were sent to her as forwards after other agency employees received them from the CIA, they were in the unclassified system long before they got to Hillary's inbox. To suggest that she should be prosecuted for emails that originated at the CIA and then to other unclassified inboxes AND THEN at LAST as FORWARDS in her inbox is the biggest bullshit insinuation yet. All this was reported in the WSJ story last year.

3. She is an OCA, she could publish it in the NYT and nothing you can do about it. Ask your guy Trump, he gave highly classified intelligence to Russians, hang him for treason and I will buy your petty excuses. Isn't he required to protect classified intel too? Major Crime. Deal with your criminal and we will see if you are just a partisan hypocrite or not. Until then, don't bother with these nonsensical points.
 
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Poindexter said:
Are you really this stupid?

1. Hillary, even as an OCA, was required to sign an NDA and had the exact same duty to protect classified information as any non-OCA with a clearance. BTW, marked or unmarked is irrelevant (as I've highlighted) so there goes another of your strawmen.

2. Hillary could only declassify information in her delegated area. Read your own reference. Hillary had classified information on her server she had zero authority to declassify.

3. Google the OCA desktop reference and you'll also find that OCAs can only downgrade or declassify information for valid reasons. Personal convenience is NOT one of them.

4. There are over 2,000 OCAs so being one is not the big deal you make it out to be. And they can no more abuse their status than a physician can their ability to prescribe drugs.

You're an idiot and the "investigation" into Hillary's server and emails was a total sham.

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1. Dumbass, everyone signs an NDA, that's not an OCA exclusive rule. Fucking idiots.

1. There is no such 'duty', it's not SoS job to sit and 'protect' by reviewing documents for classification. Only if it was marked or obvious and even then you don't prosecute people for not doing other people's jobs of marking and disseminating classified info properly.

2. Bullshit. Her area is the entire State Department, you think this is geography based? You are talking about SAP which has it's own rooms, don't say dumb shit.

3. Bullshit again, they can do anything. Ask your guy Trump, who gave Russians highly classified material for party banter.

4. Agency heads are the highest OCAs after the President, what the fuck are you comparing 2000 OCAs too

You are a fucking dumb inbred right winger, try not to talk about technical matters like these. Go post memes and defend your Trump University messiah.

And if Hillary's servers and emails were a total sham, where is your guy prosecuting her as he promised? Now give me pathetic whiny excuses about Deep state. Cry more and do nothing.
 
exGOPer said:
1. Dumbass, everyone signs an NDA, that's not an OCA exclusive rule. Fucking idiots.

1. There is no such 'duty', it's not SoS job to sit and 'protect' by reviewing documents for classification. Only if it was marked or obvious and even then you don't prosecute people for not doing other people's jobs of marking and disseminating classified info properly.

2. Bullshit. Her area is the entire State Department, you think this is geography based? You are talking about SAP which has it's own rooms, don't say dumb shit.

3. Bullshit again, they can do anything. Ask your guy Trump, who gave Russians highly classified material for party banter.

4. Agency heads are the highest OCAs after the President, what the fuck are you comparing 2000 OCAs too

You are a fucking dumb inbred right winger, try not to talk about technical matters like these. Go post memes and defend your Trump University messiah.

And if Hillary's servers and emails were a total sham, where is your guy prosecuting her as he promised? Now give me pathetic whiny excuses about Deep state. Cry more and do nothing.
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Sure dude. Whatever you say. Hillary's above the law and the NDA she signed is irrelevant. Good useful idiot :D


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exGOPer said:
1. IF she sees the material as classified, not otherwise.

2. She didn't declassify any intel outside of the state department, the material was presented to her in the declassified format by other agency employees who didn't see it as classified either. The SAP and TS programs aka drones were sent to her as forwards after other agency employees received them from the CIA, they were in the unclassified system long before they got to Hillary's inbox. To suggest that she should be prosecuted for emails that originated at the CIA and then to other unclassified inboxes AND THEN at LAST as FORWARDS in her inbox is the biggest bullshit insinuation yet. All this was reported in the WSJ story last year.

3. She is an OCA, she could publish it in the NYT and nothing you can do about it. Ask your guy Trump, he gave highly classified intelligence to Russians, hang him for treason and I will buy your petty excuses. Isn't he required to protect classified intel too? Major Crime. Deal with your criminal and we will see if you are just a partisan hypocrite or not. Until then, don't bother with these nonsensical points.
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Dude. You're completely out of touch.

Hillary and her team, copied 100's of Top Secret and SAP program Intel off internal Pentagon communication networks. These are closed systems. These are DOD programs and intel. Has nothing to do with State Dept. Hillary has no authority there. They removed classified warnings from those SAP and Top Secret intel gathered from the Pentagon. Hundreds of more felonies. Hillary knew exactly what was in those emails and that it was classifed.
 
Hotcakes said:
Dude. You're completely out of touch.

Hillary and her team, copied 100's of Top Secret and SAP program Intel off internal Pentagon communication networks. These are closed systems. These are DOD programs and intel. Has nothing to do with State Dept. Hillary has no authority there. They removed classified warnings from those SAP and Top Secret intel gathered from the Pentagon. Hundreds of more felonies. Hillary knew exactly what was in those emails and that it was classifed.
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Great, so where is the prosecution of these so called crimes? It's been over a year, I don't want to hear your amateur analysis you copy pasted from right wing blogs, show me the indictments and charges. Hell, show me precedent for OCA being prosecuted for your list of complaints.

And as I said, the SAP and TS material WAS SENT TO HER INBOX UNMARKED - it's not her job to review and mark material, the senders should be prosecuted, not receivers of unsolicited information.
 
Poindexter said:
Irrelevant, just like everything else you post :D

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Great, so why isn't she being charged or indicted by the Trump administration as Trump promised? As a Harvard trained lawyer from Suits, you clearly know your shit Mike.

Did you miss this part or your cultists tried to hide this info from the screenshot?



(3) Basis for liability.

In no instance may a party to the SF 312, SF 189 or SF 189-A be liable for violating its nondisclosure provisions by disclosing information when, at the time of the disclosure, there is no basis to suggest, other than pure speculation, that the information is classified or in the process of a classification determination.

http://www.archives.gov/isoo/training/standard-form-312.html
 
exGOPer said:
Great, so where is the prosecution of these so called crimes? It's been over a year, I don't want to hear your amateur analysis you copy pasted from right wing blogs, show me the indictments and charges. Hell, show me precedent for OCA being prosecuted for your list of complaints.

And as I said, the SAP and TS material WAS SENT TO HER INBOX UNMARKED - it's not her job to review and mark material, the senders should be prosecuted, not receivers of unsolicited information.
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The fact of the matter is the Clintons are the figureheads to one powerful arm of the Deep State. They have hundreds of their own appointees in key Federal positions left over from nearly 2 decades of appointments between Bill and Obama. Global finance and commerce has the Deep States back (Hillary), as do thousands of permanent Government intel employees and functionaries who are deeply committed to the socialist-takeover, continued globalization agenda. This isn't a conspiracy. These are just the same brainwashed Liberals we find on the street, except they were given some power and convinced themselves they're doing Gods Work.
 
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