If you never went to college, what's the best job to have now?
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unfortunately, there is a lot of wishful thinking in your post.
Nurses burn out and usually drop out in their early 50s, it is VERY hard to get into nursing programs (in some PA college, they had 10 applicants for every opening), a lot of people who try to enter the field find out quickly it is not for them, there is a huge amount of abuse towards female nurses, a lot of people who go through LPN/RN programs do not pass the NCLEX, there are 500,000 unemployed nurses in the Philippines who graduated from the rapidly growing nursing school, CNAs and other alternatives are being sought for expensive nurses, the caseloads are wicked high and it is a burnout job, and whether people like it or not, there is and will be a lot more unemployment among nurses in the future. Etc.
I dropped out of college and became a full time trader.
Learning how to trade took me longer than most bachelor degrees take to complete, during my journey I thought dropping out of college had been a mistake, the mistake was thinking I had done a mistake. Before you question yourself make sure you have given the market the proper time it deserves, five years minimum.
I suppose it depends on how much time you got in your hands and how you are going to support yourself as you look for this elusive new job/profession.
Learning how to trade took me longer than most bachelor degrees take to complete, during my journey I thought dropping out of college had been a mistake, the mistake was thinking I had done a mistake. Before you question yourself make sure you have given the market the proper time it deserves, five years minimum.
I suppose it depends on how much time you got in your hands and how you are going to support yourself as you look for this elusive new job/profession.
A young man came to wash my windows last year. He had a large wooden folding sign that he put in front of each home he worked on, which said, "I am paying off my college loans by washing windows. I'd like to wash yours. Phone xxx-xxx-xxxx."
When I called him, he came right over and was responsive and personable. He washed all the windows and skylights in my 3100 sf house, inside and out, in three hours, for $300. I've had many window washers, and he did twice as good a job as any of them has ever done, in half the time. (He also charged more--the going rate around here is $200). Then he went over to another house on my street and presumably made another $300. He said he could do 3 or sometimes 4 houses in a day.
His investment was a light truck, ladder, and a bunch of squeegees, sponges, brushes, and soap. Who knows if he really had college loans or not.
I have two graduate degrees and many marketable skills, and I do not make $1200 per day at work. (Neither do I bust my ass like that--give me college any day.)
This guy scored points compared to most people doing menial work like this, because he was personable, reliable, cheerful, appeared anxious to work, spoke my language, showed up on time, looked me in the eye, etc.
There are many other things people do around here: paint house numbers on the curb, clean gutters, paint homes, pick up dog poop, landscape, power wash walks and driveways, etc. Many of the people who do them are flaky, unreliable, do not speak enough English to understand people's instructions or questions, or look like they just got out of prison. A little personality will carry you a long way in even the most menial of businesses.
When I called him, he came right over and was responsive and personable. He washed all the windows and skylights in my 3100 sf house, inside and out, in three hours, for $300. I've had many window washers, and he did twice as good a job as any of them has ever done, in half the time. (He also charged more--the going rate around here is $200). Then he went over to another house on my street and presumably made another $300. He said he could do 3 or sometimes 4 houses in a day.
His investment was a light truck, ladder, and a bunch of squeegees, sponges, brushes, and soap. Who knows if he really had college loans or not.
I have two graduate degrees and many marketable skills, and I do not make $1200 per day at work. (Neither do I bust my ass like that--give me college any day.)
This guy scored points compared to most people doing menial work like this, because he was personable, reliable, cheerful, appeared anxious to work, spoke my language, showed up on time, looked me in the eye, etc.
There are many other things people do around here: paint house numbers on the curb, clean gutters, paint homes, pick up dog poop, landscape, power wash walks and driveways, etc. Many of the people who do them are flaky, unreliable, do not speak enough English to understand people's instructions or questions, or look like they just got out of prison. A little personality will carry you a long way in even the most menial of businesses.
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these types of threads interest me.
I've been demo trading and a little live trading for a very long time now. About 3 years.
Ive put in 14 hour days throughout them years, screen watching and reading and trading, trying to crack the market.
I am not even sure that it is possible, and i think that more than TA is required. I think those making money from the market have access to special info not privvy to retail traders.
Im one of the unucky guys who never knew what they wanted to be when they grew up. I've always been jealous of people that did. The lack of focus in not knowing is probably how i fell into trading, and it has consumed lots of my time.
I am now in my mid 20's and dont have much going for me that would attract employers. A little college where i got an IT qualification (i hate computers) but thats it.
People often say to do something you love so that you enjoy going to work everyday:
I love the market although am not convinced its possible toi make money unless you're already rich and can just keep adding to losing trades or are on the inside and in the industry.
I love music and play the piano and guitar, although probably not well enough to make a living from it.
I love animals - cant think of muc i can do in that field without any qualifications.
Im at a loss at the moment.
Would you maybe recommend learning a trade like plastering or something? It doesn't interest me, but then i dont think any job ever would. It pays ok though and like being physically active.
I dont really want to just go and get a job in a warehouse and then that's it....that's my life.
I hope i wake up with lots of ideas and hope one day.
Sorry for using this thread as a councelling session, lol.
I've been demo trading and a little live trading for a very long time now. About 3 years.
Ive put in 14 hour days throughout them years, screen watching and reading and trading, trying to crack the market.
I am not even sure that it is possible, and i think that more than TA is required. I think those making money from the market have access to special info not privvy to retail traders.
Im one of the unucky guys who never knew what they wanted to be when they grew up. I've always been jealous of people that did. The lack of focus in not knowing is probably how i fell into trading, and it has consumed lots of my time.
I am now in my mid 20's and dont have much going for me that would attract employers. A little college where i got an IT qualification (i hate computers) but thats it.
People often say to do something you love so that you enjoy going to work everyday:
I love the market although am not convinced its possible toi make money unless you're already rich and can just keep adding to losing trades or are on the inside and in the industry.
I love music and play the piano and guitar, although probably not well enough to make a living from it.
I love animals - cant think of muc i can do in that field without any qualifications.
Im at a loss at the moment.
Would you maybe recommend learning a trade like plastering or something? It doesn't interest me, but then i dont think any job ever would. It pays ok though and like being physically active.
I dont really want to just go and get a job in a warehouse and then that's it....that's my life.
I hope i wake up with lots of ideas and hope one day.
Sorry for using this thread as a councelling session, lol.
Excellent point !!
I'm 55, college educated, lots of land, enough money, lots of accounting skills, few meaningful skills (carpentry, electrical), kinda lazy.
I pay PREMIMUN dollar for painting, gutter-cleaning, wood splitting, lawnmowing, etc. to anybody who will show up ON TIME and do just a littttle bit more than expected.
If you are young and want to go to college: major in Accounting.
If you are young and don't want to go to college: start your own business as a 'handy-person'. Market yourself to the old and/or wealthy and charge PREMIUM (high) rates. Show up on time, do at least ONE THING extra. Clean up ALL evidience of your work and call back monthly. You'll make a killing whether you live in the city, suburbs, or country.
Read ...read about Henry Ford, and others....who never had a day of College.
Then read about all the unemployed BAs, MBAs, and soon to be MED STUDENTS if the bill is past tomorrow night.
Then sit down and read between the lines.
Figuer out why, "College" is pushed the way it is. Think about all those Public Companies who hire, churn and burn and spit out their workforce. (Soon to lay off even more after sunday).
Then ponder the cost of an education vrs the way this country is headed....economic wise.
Last, do what ever you want to do.
And the golden rule...don't believe the bullshit "Supa Traders" on this site. If you wana trade, find a group that will take you in, or a shop that will give you a chance.
Demo Trading means nothing. It's just like the Oxygen that the casino's pump in to keep people awake and fresh so they can give away more money.
Read "THINK AND GROW RICH". Best book ever recomended to me, by one of my wealthest clients.
Then read about all the unemployed BAs, MBAs, and soon to be MED STUDENTS if the bill is past tomorrow night.
Then sit down and read between the lines.
Figuer out why, "College" is pushed the way it is. Think about all those Public Companies who hire, churn and burn and spit out their workforce. (Soon to lay off even more after sunday).
Then ponder the cost of an education vrs the way this country is headed....economic wise.
Last, do what ever you want to do.
And the golden rule...don't believe the bullshit "Supa Traders" on this site. If you wana trade, find a group that will take you in, or a shop that will give you a chance.
Demo Trading means nothing. It's just like the Oxygen that the casino's pump in to keep people awake and fresh so they can give away more money.
Read "THINK AND GROW RICH". Best book ever recomended to me, by one of my wealthest clients.
I was a dealer in Las vegas for a while and I saw all types of others that were dealers too. Some didnt finish high school, some had 4 year degrees. All it takes to be a dealer is to pass a background check and about 6 weeks of dealer school. Then you start off making about 25-30k per year. If you are young and good looking, you can start right off at the hard rock cafe. Dealers there make about 60-70k per year. Otherwise you need to deal for about 5 years or so and you can get a job at the higher end casinos and make an average of about 50-60k per year. Every once in a while though, you get a billionaire come to down and tip like mad. I remember one day Kerry Packer came in to the Hilton and tipped like crazy. Every dealer that worked that night went home with $30k
If you dont feel like moving to vegas for a job, then sales is where its at. You will earn what you are worth in sales. In car sales about 1 in 5 make over 100k per year. The head sales managers can make up to 500k per year too. But in car sales, you really work alot of hours. Its not 8-5...its 7am to sometimes 1am.
If you dont feel like moving to vegas for a job, then sales is where its at. You will earn what you are worth in sales. In car sales about 1 in 5 make over 100k per year. The head sales managers can make up to 500k per year too. But in car sales, you really work alot of hours. Its not 8-5...its 7am to sometimes 1am.