I remember a Goldman Saks research report, showing that everytime the sauds said that they would increase oil prodution, they failed to increase, the chart was for a year and half, in fact production was left the same. if somebody has that chart please post. I think if the sauds fail to show adaquate increase in production by the fall, then we definately know that the sauds are at the limit of production. Its not bs, the sauds have been saying they would increase production by 500K, 1M, 250K, but they fail to produce that number. They keep saying they have a 1M in reserve production. You can say that they are only speaking it to push oil down, but why the stagnant production. If they arent at the limit. Even the russians are saying they are producing at the limit and most major producers. If this is all true, isnt this a logical reason why oils so strong. If it became public and the sauds admits they are at the limit, what would happen to the price of oil.