If you had to start over...

Where would you put in the most effort to learn it.

  • Portfolio management

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • Correlation matrix

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Price action

    Votes: 16 47.1%
  • Statistics

    Votes: 15 44.1%

  • Total voters
    34
The context here is trading. Of course seconds do not occur randomly. Does that even need to be stated? Lets look at it in a different way. When the next tick will occur is unknown and so can be treated as a random event. It is very important to understand that the future rate of change is unknowable. Back testing will arrive at some sort of average, but that is not very helpful, all it will do is lengthen the time taken to empty your account.


Who really cares is true, it's not fun to debate on here anymore. At the same time people just seem to over complicate and add factors in and/or over state the intelligence level needed to consistently pull money out of the markets. I mean OK if you're trading tens of millions or hundred of million dollar portfolio and managing a hedge fund or something, than having deeper over all knowledge and adding complexity can obviously help due to taking a position can move the market. But for the average joe trading on here, my statement is correct. Anyone trading low to even medium sized volume, particularly on equity futures doesn't have to make things so complicated or need an IQ even above 100 to pull money out of the markets. You can still make incredibly money relative to other jobs, trading even 2-3 NQ contracts.
 
i will agree back-testing is misused and not for most people, but statistics are just facts laid out before you.
Tell that to Kevin Davey.....he is big into FORWARD testing. Although forward testing is now somewhat passe with the advent of EMicro contracts. No need for forward testing. Got an idea ? Test it REALTIME with the micros.
 
Anyone trading low to even medium sized volume, particularly on equity futures doesn't have to make things so complicated or need an IQ even above 100 to pull money out of the markets. You can still make incredibly money relative to other jobs, trading even 2-3 NQ contracts.
Good Morning Concinnity,

I agree 100% on the red part.

I have honestly noticed over the last 1-2 years the members on this ET website really makes day trading very complicated and its very difficulty holding a quality conversation with traders or members.

No-one wants to keep things simple anymore.

I have noticed traders on here with one brain and two arms talking about far fetched trading styles/things, risk management, mental, psychology, and on and on and on. Just complicating their life.
 
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The context here is trading. Of course seconds do not occur randomly. Does that even need to be stated? Lets look at it in a different way. When the next tick will occur is unknown and so can be treated as a random event. It is very important to understand that the future rate of change is unknowable. Back testing will arrive at some sort of average, but that is not very helpful, all it will do is lengthen the time taken to empty your account.

Sometimes it’s missing the forest for the trees. Sounds like you are observing non-liquid instruments or low-volume periods of markets.

Separate volume periods like-to-like from birds eye. Depending on how one defines it; one could class 3 major injections of liquidity in a trading day. Attempting to average volume over a 24hr period would glance over this reality.
 
I am asking because we have a newcomer
I am asking because we have a newcomer ...

Depends.
What is the source of your 'newcomer'?
What is your purpose in this training endeavor?

Family? The street? A school? A walk-in?
As a favor?
To employ them?
To find the best performer for the position?
 
Family? The street? A school? A walk-in?
As a favor?
To employ them?
To find the best performer for the position?
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TELL him or her nothing is random\
that's why we lost so much the first year= FAAAAAAAR worse than random, far worse than average.\LOL x 365.
The Trendstat writer compared a picture of a green bean sprout to a green redwood seedling/LOL:D:D
NEVER confuse a redwood seedling to the forest, or the forest for the tree as Sprout noted :caution:
 
Let's say you lost your edge and you had to start all over again. In which of these topics would you invest the most time into? I am asking because we have a newcomer with basic knowledge in all of them, yet not deep enough to start out. Ofc your style/personality does not fit his etc so it is not of much use but I find the question quite entertaining anyways do I just post it here.

i would've skipped forex altogether
 
Can't speak for others but took me effing ages because of ego. My advice is to question everything, ask and learn till you get what you need, but until then, just because you know not to lob a 100:1 leveraged trade with a 1 pip stop doesn't mean you know jack shit in the scheme of things. I say this because I reckon I could have saved years by just asking the right questions but I was too up my own ass to do so.
 
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