If you could go back in time to when you were a new trader

Quote from TheGreatGorilla:

Ok go away.

Ah. You registered a couple of days ago and I registered twelve years ago. Hmm.

Best of luck to you in your trading.
 
Quote from dbphoenix:



As for people arguing about TA and trendfollowing, given that they can't even agree on what TA and TF are, their arguments are not particularly compelling.

No one is arguing about what TA and TF, except you.

You actually believe in TA and TF because you insist on using the terms "supply and demand" in place of a trend, correct?

When the rubber meets the road, all that matters is how one FOLLOWS price relative to their trade. Calling something demand related or supply related is actually deceptive because we all know supply/demand is a fundamental term for the bigger picture and useless in "TRADING" jargon.

Many book sellers prefer to describe well worn techniques with a twist to sound "new and improved", you know like the latest greatest version of TIDE to get your clothes cleaner than ever.

If you feel my arguments (as you stated) are not compelling, I would love your explanations why my using a method of using the 20 ema would not work. What is wrong with all the work I did? Let me hear YOUR compelling reason why it will not work, you seem to have all the answers to the elementary beginnings of the whole process. Show me how you are able to take the whole process to the NEXT level. Can you do that without using bully answers?

I will be waiting............... but not holding breath :cool:
 
Quote from dbphoenix:

Ah. You registered a couple of days ago and I registered twelve years ago. Hmm.

Best of luck to you in your trading.

Are you really that petty?

I asked you to leave, after you said you would if I told you to. And you can't even manage that.

I really must of pissed you off.
 
Quote from bighog:

No one is arguing about what TA and TF, except you.

You actually believe in TA and TF because you insist on using the terms "supply and demand" in place of a trend, correct?

When the rubber meets the road, all that matters is how one FOLLOWS price relative to their trade. Calling something demand related or supply related is actually deceptive because we all know supply/demand is a fundamental term for the bigger picture and useless in "TRADING" jargon.

Many book sellers prefer to describe well worn techniques with a twist to sound "new and improved", you know like the latest greatest version of TIDE to get your clothes cleaner than ever.

If you feel my arguments (as you stated) are not compelling, I would love your explanations why my using a method of using the 20 ema would not work. What is wrong with all the work I did? Let me hear YOUR compelling reason why it will not work, you seem to have all the answers to the elementary beginnings of the whole process. Show me how you are able to take the whole process to the NEXT level. Can you do that without using bully answers?

I will be waiting............... but not holding breath :cool:

Well said man.
 
Quote from TheGreatGorilla:

Are you really that petty?

I asked you to leave, after you said you would if I told you to. And you can't even manage that.

I really must of pissed you off.

No, I said that we could drop this anytime. Not quite the same thing.

And, no, you haven't pissed me off. I don't even know you.
 
Quote from dbphoenix:

What does fooling have to do with anything? If a trade doesn't do what one expects it to do, why hang on? Hope?
well first of all, I don't "expect" a trade to do anything
 
Quote from bighog:

No one is arguing about what TA and TF, except you.

You actually believe in TA and TF because you insist on using the terms "supply and demand" in place of a trend, correct?

When the rubber meets the road, all that matters is how one FOLLOWS price relative to their trade. Calling something demand related or supply related is actually deceptive because we all know supply/demand is a fundamental term for the bigger picture and useless in "TRADING" jargon.

Many book sellers prefer to describe well worn techniques with a twist to sound "new and improved", you know like the latest greatest version of TIDE to get your clothes cleaner than ever.

If you feel my arguments (as you stated) are not compelling, I would love your explanations why my using a method of using the 20 ema would not work. What is wrong with all the work I did? Let me hear YOUR compelling reason why it will not work, you seem to have all the answers to the elementary beginnings of the whole process. Show me how you are able to take the whole process to the NEXT level. Can you do that without using bully answers?

I will be waiting............... but not holding breath :cool:

There's no reason why a trading strategy based on the movements of a moving average can't work as long as it's thoroughly tested and consistently profitable. Ditto with a strategy based on phases of the moon, which someone in another forum follows religiously. But to suggest all one has to do in order to succeed is plot and follow a moving average is inadequate.

As to all the work you did, I'm unfamiliar with it. I've never seen your plan nor have I seen any of your trades. I'd love to see both.

As to whether or not supply and demand are useless in trading, I'll leave that up to the individual. But judging the imbalances in supply and demand tell me when to enter and how long to stay in. That may not be everyone's definition of "trading" but it suits me. Homma figured that out four hundred years ago.
 
Quote from TheGreatGorilla:



I could make up some BS and say, "I use technical indicators such as the 10 day ema with a 50 sma, and profit off of the blah blah blah blah. Then I watch the volume leaders on Yahoo! Finance and use the secret ratio I made at Princeton."

Think about it logically. If there really was like this secret all knowing way of predicting anything, wouldn't the government have it?

Correct me if i`m wrong but i think what you are trying to say and i would agree with, is that if the whole plan is defined with strict rules its gonna fail ,in other words, you cant just sit in front of a screen and read from a paper on what to do next.

Also looking briefly at dbphoenix thread it seems to me that we have quite a similar approach to trading
and it has a lot to do with waiting for the right moment and you cant defined that right moment with rules ( or i am to dumb to achieve that :( ).
So maybe you are both right and are just arguing about different things :) .
 
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