If you apply to 759 jobs and get 0 is it you or the jobmarket?
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They wont get it. Welfare is for the folks in the hood with 5 kids running around half naked with no man around the house (except after hours)
A white college educated woman would get laughed out of the office.
That's what I was thinking. I'm calling BS on the claim that "many" people he knows with Electrical and Computer Science/Engineering degrees can't find jobs.
No, welfare is far broader than that. As long as you can prove you have no job, no unemployment, and no assets, you get welfare.
If every college grad tried to find a job right now, salaries of college grads would revert to zero, as supply > demand. With zero salaries, the capital base through which college grads can start new businesses would also deplete to zero, thus, the economy would continue down its path of crashing.
More college grads collecting welfare, instead of going to minimal-paid jobs where they just suppress salaries, is one of the only ways that the market will regain stability. Hopefully, coupled with massive defaults on student loans, which hopefully would force student loan makers to cut back on supply.
As I said, not BS at all. There was no hiring in 2002, 2003, and barely any in 2004. By the time 2005 rolled around, what little hiring had occurred in the tech sector was mainly just foreigners, or picking up some of the more experienced guys. 2006, there was a little hiring, and by the time 2007 started rolling around, the economy was back into crash mode.
I know its hard for you to believe, but its the truth. Some areas of technology, such as computer chip design, are practically devoid of people under 35. And Silicon Valley has been basically taken over by foreign nationals on H1-B visas, not American college grads, in the past decade.
I graduated in 2006 as a 28 year old software engineer and had a job lined up months before I graduated and many opportunities on the table to choose from.
Yeah...I'm calling BS on your claim.
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I graduated in 2006 as a 28 year old software engineer and had a job lined up months before I graduated and many opportunities on the table to choose from.
Yeah...I'm calling BS on your claim.
And I graduated in 2002 with dual EE and CS degrees from a top-20 university and spent years not even getting the time of day from corporate HR or from recruiters when I sent them my resume. I was at the top of my class, have some good publications/projects under my belt, work experience, and I was 22.
So I'm calling BS on your claim that the market is good. I've seen so much top talent thrown under the bus in the past decade. Most of my class is unemployed as well. In 1999, firms were coming to the school begging some of us to quit school and work in California.
Maybe it was you...not the job market.
If I had multiple interviews and offers, then wouldn't that mean that there were multiple jobs available? In fact, the 4 people in my software engineering senior project that I worked with all had jobs lined up before graduation too. There are technical jobs available. There are just plenty of people that don't have the right attitudes or personalities to fill those jobs. One thing I learned quick. If you want to keep your job and find jobs easily, then you don't make life for coworkers difficult. Being simply a person that others enjoy being around is pretty much a sure fire way of getting hired and keeping employment.
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Maybe it was you...not the job market.
Nope. I have a high GPA, speak good English, am clean shaved, etc.
Wrong. Firms aren't hiring, or when they do hire, they get hundreds of resumes for just a couple positions, so they pick at random. Attitudes or personalities is just a smokescreen -- every firm needs a broad cross section of personalities and attitudes to get the job done.
Well those characteristics certainly aren't ones that you can determine from a resume. Most of my fellow classmates haven't had more than a couple interviews since graduation. Which says that firms just aren't hiring.
If there was a significant amount of hiring, then salaries would have risen, which they mostly haven't in software or hardware development or operations. The salaries being offered today haven't grown since the 1990s. In some cases, new grads are being asked to work at salaries that would have been more typical of the 1980s.
LOL...I frankly don't believe you at all. Where are all your friends looking? On the same street?
Sorry...but that's pure hogwash that you claim to know people with technical degrees that have spent "years" without getting hired. I think you're lying out of your teeth.