If we were to go to war with China

You guys think I want a war to eliminate some debt? I DO NOT! Just answer the question if you know the answer, if you don't, quit reading.

I will rephrase the question.

If a country is in debt to another country and there is a war between the two countries obviously the payments would stop flowing between them. After it is resolved what would happen?
 
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You guys think I want a war to eliminate some debt? I DO NOT! Just answer the question if you know the answer, if you don't, quit reading.

I will rephrase the question.

If a country is in debt to another country and there is a war between the two countries obviously the payments would stop flowing between them. After it is resolved what would happen?
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I'm not sure if there is a historical precedent for this scenaro.
 
He does bring an interesting subpoint that so much of our behavior is controlled by this invisible man-made concept of debt. What if..
 
This $900 billion would be a drop in the bucket compared to what a war with China would end up costing. That is a lose-lose scenario, that I think everyone wants to avoid (hopefully).
 
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This $900 billion would be a drop in the bucket compared to what a war with China would end up costing. That is a lose-lose scenario, that I think everyone wants to avoid (hopefully).
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I agree. The consequenses would be catostrophic for both sides.
In this respect Global Trade has benefited mankind. The USA and China are like two convicts handcuffed together. Each one cannot stand the other, but their mutual survival depends on each other.
 
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If china attacks Taiwan we could possibly be in a limited war with China to protect Tawain. Under this scenario everybody loses except Taiwan-they would probably keep their freedom and independence. No doubt there would be a world economic collapse that would eclipse the current one we are in. In military terms, the first strike priorty for Tawain and the USA would be every runway in China. I recall from my service years that there are several cruise missles dedicated to every possible runway in Eastern China. The communists have never developed a creditable VTOL combat aircraft-and this leaves them vurnerable.
In the event of a confrontation all of their runways for their combat aircraft would be distroyed by cruise missle strikes from
Ticonderoga Class cruisers stationed in the middle of the Pacific.
China in turn would in turn do the same and also target American carriers. This would effectively render traditional fighter and bomber aircraft useless--they would not have a place to land and rearm and repair.
The nation that would rule the sky would be the one who has the best VTOL aircraft-planes that do not need runways. This is why the first combat wings of F-35 joint strike fighters are to be deployed to Japan.

http://www.aviapedia.com/files/fighters/F-35/F-35_4.jpg
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Sorry but that is all academic because the U.S. has already agreed to give Tawain back to China. For their end China forced N.Korea to stop its nuclear program. The deal was cut almost a year ago. We won't be defending Tawain and they are electing pro-Chinese people to their government now so its a done deal.
 
I can only hope that you are wrong in in this assesment. As a friend of Free China I hope Liberty prevails. Only the people of Taiwan can really determine the outcome of this. Whereas I support the peacfull reunification of Taiwan to China, I believe the collective will of the Taiwanese poeple be respected. Ethier
Yes or no or maybe-with certain conditions. It would be a sad day for the freedom movement if China were allowed to devour
its peaceful neighbor.
 
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I agree. The consequenses would be catostrophic for both sides.
In this respect Global Trade has benefited mankind. The USA and China are like two convicts handcuffed together. Each one cannot stand the other, but their mutual survival depends on each other.
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Mutual survival? What does China need the US for? They have one billion consumers waiting at home to take the place of the Americans who have spent everything they can borrow.

China has been in an economic war with the US for years. I don't think it was intentional or planned but undeniably China is winning the war. They have already accumulated a tremendous amount of debt from the US. Once the depression is at it's worst and American stocks have hit their lowest point, China will start buying every stock in sight. Then the United States will become economic slaves to the Chinese. I don't forsee that China could do anything else with the tremendous debt that they've accumulated.

China would never have any incentive to have a physical war with the United States when they've already won the economic war.
 
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