If the Marines are indicted should they be sent the Hague for War crimes?

[mahram]

it has already been exposed. in about 3 weeks the full report with the confessions of 4 the marines admitting to acts of war crimes. Thats why it was broken so fast. They all turned on each other, and all of them implicating others. The report is essentially done, waiting for final draft. The reason it broke was that they admitted b/c of the trophy pictures they took and sent back home throught computers. It was transmitted all throught the camp. They confided to buddies. But nobody spoke up b/c of the code of the camp. You dont rat out other marines.

Quote from g222:

Oh ... and by the way, mahram ... your constant banter has indeed aggrivated me to no end. But please know that I have no problem with you expressing your views. If you hate America and Americans, it is your right - no matter where you might live - to so state. You do seem to be a sensitive guy and I'm sure you're just as uncomfortable with actions of the imams as you are with the Marines.

In that regard, I would fully support any effort on your part to go public in a newspaper of your choice where-in you would fully expose the Marines for the baby-killers that you know they are, and the imams for the baby-killers that the rest of the world knows they are.


(Now for the rest of us ... let's start a pool on how many days after he publishes that it takes for someone unknown to knock him off his bike and stab him 20 times ... )

 

[mahram]

it isnt out of character. This only broke b/c they were caught by others who had evidence. And these men broke in the brig. All wanting to make deals. The cammand structure of the camp started a coverup till four months after the incident when a humanitarian group brought in evidence of the war crime. Thats why so many people were relieaved of duty. Imagine how many crimes these people have gotten away with, when nobody had evidence proving they did it.
Like I said, acts committed by men in power, representing the law and government is far heinous then when average thugs and civilans committing crimes.
What is worse when a cop robs a bank or when a thug robs a bank?

Quote from g222:

I think what's going on here is that this act is so out of character for Americans, that some - especially mahram - are not only decrying it ( as they should), but are languishing in rubbing all of our faces in it. But such acts - and worse - committed by muslims on muslims have become so commonplace that we have grown to accept their butchery as nothing less than we expect from them. It's part of their natural behavior. If they suddenly stopped for an instant, it would be just as out of character for them as this current situation is for us.

 

[g222]

Quote from mahram:

it has already been exposed. in about 3 weeks the full report with the confessions of 4 the marines admitting to acts of war crimes. Thats why it was broken so fast. They all turned on each other, and all of them implicating others. The report is essentially done, waiting for final draft. The reason it broke was that they admitted b/c of the trophy pictures they took and sent back home throught computers. It was transmitted all throught the camp. They confided to buddies. But nobody spoke up b/c of the code of the camp. You dont rat out other marines.

Why do you avoid answering my posts ???

In view of the hundreds of lines you have devoted to the Marines, why will you not devote just a couple in recognition of the autrocities by the imams ??? Tell us all ... of what ar you afraid ???? You can continue to hide within the internet in safety. Or is it that someone knows you ... has urged you to write ... and if you condemned the imams your bicycle ride would be rather short ???!!!!! Is there more here than meets the eye ??? Mahram ... are you ... n-o-o-o ... mahram ... are you a ...
sleeper ??? You have been TOO careful at avoiding writing any sentence that even hinted at the word ... imam. Are you afraid of your own safety if you do ??? Mahram ... are you a shill ??? Are you someone we should worry about ????

 

[mahram]

they didnt just kill unarmed civilians these men butchered children. Officers of the law. Men who swore to uphold the law. And yes these people have rights under the geneva convention, and under the military code of conduct. If you started reading all of the reports, and whistleblower reports, these men went into a babies crib. Took out a shot gun, blew out a part of the babies head. then they took the babies corpse and smashed her head into the wall. They claimed it was an IED. Till they broke in the brig and admitted to the acts. thats why this case wrapped up so quickly. Even after 4months after the crime.

Quote from james_bond_3rd:

Yes, there is. The former may be against the law and the latter may not be. But there is definitely no difference between murder by a judge and murder by your average joe.

I think you missed the point of your own question, though. The point is not murder per se. Pacifists would claim that all acts of war are murder. The point is that killing unarmed civillians by our soldiers is against our law, which we (Americans) are oblidged to enforce. That is why we should be more outraged. Otherwise we would not be patriotic!

 

[g222]

Quote from mahram:

it isnt out of character. This only broke b/c they were caught by others who had evidence. And these men broke in the brig. All wanting to make deals. The cammand structure of the camp started a coverup till four months after the incident when a humanitarian group brought in evidence of the war crime. Thats why so many people were relieaved of duty. Imagine how many crimes these people have gotten away with, when nobody had evidence proving they did it.
Like I said, acts committed by men in power, representing the law and government is far heinous then when average thugs and civilans committing crimes.
What is worse when a cop robs a bank or when a thug robs a bank?

And you continue to avoid the questions in my posts.

Mahram, mahram, m-a-h-r-a-m ...
Why are you so terrified at even hinting that the imams are ... anything at all bad ??? Who are you afraid of ???

 

[g222]

Quote from mahram:

they didnt just kill unarmed civilians these men butchered children. Officers of the law. Men who swore to uphold the law. And yes these people have rights under the geneva convention, and under the military code of conduct. If you started reading all of the reports, and whistleblower reports, these men went into a babies crib. Took out a shot gun, blew out a part of the babies head. then they took the babies corpse and smashed her head into the wall. They claimed it was an IED. Till they broke in the brig and admitted to the acts. thats why this case wrapped up so quickly. Even after 4months after the crime.

You're getting pretty graphic, dude ... and the acts of the Marines get worse with each of your posts. But ... why are you two-stepping me??? Your posts are beginning to sound like al jazira ... like the rantings of those kidnappers who butchered the heads off of those civilian captives. You're afraid that if you digress ... if you speak against islamic butchery ... someone is going to do something to you that you won't like. What's going on here, mahram ???????

 

[mahram]

actually g222 that was from the los angelos times, cnn international, times online, and etc It is graphic b/c this is what these men have done. Why dont you just read the articles. There arent al jazarra. This is from the own militaries final draft report. And from us marine whistleblowers. People who just couldnt handle what they saw, and had to tell the world. That's why I keep saying why are you justifying the murder of children and babies. Not just murder, whole sale insane butchering.

Quote from g222:

You're getting pretty graphic, dude ... and the acts of the Marines get worse with each of your posts. But ... why are you two-stepping me??? Your posts are beginning to sound like al jazira ... like the rantings of those kidnappers who butchered the heads off of those civilian captives. You're afraid that if you digress ... if you speak against islamic butchery ... someone is going to do something to you that you won't like. What's going on here, mahram ???????

 

[g222]

Quote from mahram:

actually g222 that was from the los angelos times, cnn international, times online, and etc

... and what about the rest of my many posts ??? Why are you avoiding my questions??? Wake up ... wake up !!!! Or are you a real heavy ... sleeper ?????

 

[mahram]

hey I cant do anything about sleeper cells or actions taken by governments supported by the american government. Guess who supports the bulk of terriosm in the world. The saudi regime and royal family. but nobody in american government would like to tackle that, b/c it goes against their oil interests. the people who support terriosm are supported tacitly by your government. Now answer my question, do you support the murder of children yes or no, and what is your name and address. I gave you mine, now give me yours. You said you werent afraid. so lets have it.

Quote from g222:

... and what about the rest of my many posts ??? Why are you avoiding my questions??? Wake up ... wake up !!!! Or are you a real heavy ... sleeper ?????

 

[g222]

Quote from mahram:

hey I cant do anything about sleeper cells or actions taken by governments supported by the american government. Guess who supports the bulk of terriosm in the world. The saudi regime and royal family. but nobody in american government would like to tackle that, b/c it goes against their oil interests. the people who support terriosm are supported tacitly by your government. Now answer my question, do you support the murder of children yes or no, and what is your name and address. I gave you mine, now give me yours. You said you werent afraid. so lets have it.

I've answered your question ... and giving me your name and address and that of every member of your family still avoids your answer to my one looming question. But your silence does indeed make a loud response !!!