If the govt didn't guarantee student loans

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

That's a pretty stupid assumption.

How's so? You explain. I think your user name should be called: HOOVER TRADING

People in Europe like their free college and cheap health care. If you were there and told them otherwise, you'd end up at a Euro gov. sponsored hospital. Don't tell other people they shouldn't have it. That's their country and they do as they wish.
 
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I really don't see the need for big universities besides getting drunk and banging some sluts.

Isn't that what college is all about?

Universities do provide the majority of science research we have though.
 
Quote from nutmeg:

JP Morgan is out of the student loan business.


Dimon can say whatever reasons, could be true or not, plain bs or a response to fed policies, Imo, it will be the pps and market reaction whether this is a good thing or bad or maybe for the moment we won't know.
 
Quote from piezoe:

Tuition in the public institutions, overall in the U.S. has just kept pace with the consumer inflation rate computed using the 1980 method. You're suggesting that because students have access to loans, the institutions have raised their tuitions more than they would have otherwise. This does not seem to be supported by fact, since the entire increase is attributable to inflation. If students did not have access to loans, there would be fewer students, and institution could downsize some. There is, however, economy of scale in the public institutions, so downsizing could be expected to result in an increase in tuition. Your thesis is not reasonable, at least as far as the public institutions are concerned. Your bet might be right if you were to examine the tuition increases at the most prestigious private universities with large endowments. They have different constraints then the public institutions and may play the tuition game differently, if they choose to.

The actual facts, as far as public institutions go, show that their total funding has lagged inflation, because State and Local appropriations have been cut. For example appropriations dropped by about 10% over the ten year period ending in 2008. (The most recent ten-year period I have data for.)

The students ire is misplaced. They should be demonstrating in Sacramento instead.

Note that you are basing your whole argument on inflation calculated using the 1980 method. By that measure nearly everybody in the private sector has seen his real income slashed over the past few decades. So if the rest of us have to suffer from substantial declines in real income why shouldn't the college professors and university administrators have to share the pain? The advocates of big government have been happy with the various gimmicks used in current inflation calculations in order to claim that inflation is low so government overspending and money printing isn't a problem. But suddenly when their big education ox is gored they want to revert to the 1980 method of calculating inflation.
 
Quote from piezoe:

I've had some time now to hunt down the data you need to compute college tuition vs. inflation and then draw your own conclusions....

Oh I meant to ask, are employed in any way by a college or university?
 
A lot of schools have had cuts to education recent years. I don't get why people still complain about them. There's been a ton of student protests over tuition hikes. A lot of us are still paying student loans. Just more of the deflect the blame on others for a bad economy if you ask me.
 
Quote from G-Unit:

A lot of schools have had cuts to education recent years. I don't get why people still complain about them. There's been a ton of student protests over tuition hikes. A lot of us are still paying student loans. Just more of the deflect the blame on others for a bad economy if you ask me.
Proof our education system has failed the student.
 
Quote from pspr:

Proof our education system has failed the student.

How is that? The U.S. still has a good college system. We should be putting more into education than taking out. Look at how much China and India has invested in their education system. Not only did they take our base manufacturing jobs but they've taken higher up tech and engineering jobs too.
 
Quote from G-Unit:

... We should be putting more into education than taking out. ...
Much of we're "putting into education" is wasted. Putting more, under the current system, is just more wasted.

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