If that doesn't worry you...

[TheDawn]

No but Bitcoin might be. Using the metal analogy, ETH might be like silver.

Others can be considered to be like base metals. Iron Ore has value but you probably wouldn't use it as a SoV.

Obviously some are just worthless shit (metal colored plastic).

All those metals that you mentioned are all tradable commodities which is exactly what crypto as a collective asset is. BTC is really not much different. Everybody is promoting it because everybody has invested in it and has got so much stakes in it. If you truly value BTC for it being a store of value, why don't you go for gold outright instead? At least it will give you some privacy and anonymity which you can't even get with BTC anymore.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

more concerned with ensuring the safety of their transactions than with their privacy,

Wrong.

If you tell them that their neighbor or any random government employee can now look at their bank account without a warrant, I suspect they'd run fast the other way.

And given Dear Leader Trudeau's attempt to lock bank accounts, it does not behoove a smart person to put their savings at the whim of some bureaucrat.

 

[Dutchy1986]

I'm invested in crypto and BTC but, unlike many who view BTC as the alternative to fiat or an escape from government regulations, I see its purpose more alongside gold, but dematerialized. I invest in cryptos primarily as a speculator looking for a "quick" return, with little commitment to the cause (I'm no idealist).

The following article is what worries me (and many regulatory bodies) about cryptos in general and renforce my conviction that BTC and others still have a way to go.

https://flip.it/ddMj6l

I like this analogy of it, I’m also in crypto for profits and don’t really follow the back story

 

[running_bare]

Will ordinary people be able to vote for those on the board of this supra-national, one-world government?

If there is no vote, will this board (with unelected leaders) know & do what's best for the plebs?
(who doesn't have a say & presumably, according to the elites, doesn't know any better)

Yes, but that's not how history is read. Alexandre was but one of many who conquered the world and its riches. The history of nation building is one of slaughter to the top job, and still is in some parts of the world.
Modern Europe is a model of intellectual recognition that wars are barbaric and we ought to resolve our disputes in other ways. Uniting formerly waring nations, replace national currencies and allowing a supra government to legislate for all is an incredible model that has shown remarkable resiliency despite the successes of right wing nationalists.

 

[Money Trust]

Yes, you and about a thousand other people. Anyone well read
already understood this.

I've read at least a hundred books about tptb, and many of them
give detailed information about the elitist running the NWO.

Are you willing to fight against them?

Unfortunately anyone that becomes a threat to their operation
is ruined by the criminal justice system or end up a suicide.

Yes, you and about a thousand other people. Anyone well read
already understood this.

I've read at least a hundred books about tptb, and many of them
give detailed information about the elitist running the NWO.

Are you willing to fight against them?

Unfortunately anyone that becomes a threat to their operation
is ruined by the criminal justice system or end up a suicide.

Not to sound defeatist, but I seriously doubt that I can do anything on my own. Therefore, I prefer to learn how to benefit from the system instead.

 

[VicBee]

Wrong.

If you tell them that their neighbor or any random government employee can now look at their bank account without a warrant, I suspect they'd run fast the other way.

And given Dear Leader Trudeau's attempt to lock bank accounts, it does not behoove a smart person to put their savings at the whim of some bureaucrat.

I believe you're wrong on 2 counts:
1. Government already knows what's in your bank account because they know where you work and how much your job pays. If you're American and living abroad, disclosure requirements are even more detailed, from FINCEN 114 by the taxpayer and bank triggers when transferring $10k or more. More precisely, every non currency purchase made is recorded in some ledger by some business, be it credit card company or app from phone. Any purchase close to or reaching $10k triggers a validation that the customer knows or not about. In fact, some banks implement % of account holding to trigger deposit/withdrawal warnings.
2. The facts from above don't prevent the world to turn, people know and people don't care. Given the option of tighter scrutiny to catch bad actors versus government ability to snoop on your toilet paper purchases, most people will opt for more scrutiny. Only the bad actors will fight for their freedom to be or not to be bad actors.

 

[VicBee]

Will ordinary people be able to vote for those on the board of this supra-national, one-world government?

If there is no vote, will this board (with unelected leaders) know & do what's best for the plebs?
(who doesn't have a say & presumably, according to the elites, doesn't know any better)

I think you're responding to my post...
Ordinary people? No need to create a separate category to make a point; everyone is ordinary. Europe was created from the result of multiple elections by ordinary people and those ordinary people can also vote to exit. Its various decision making bodies are overseen by elected representatives. For that matter, even anti European nationalists have seats at the European government. So pitting so called ordinary people against elites stinks of nationalist propaganda. One person, one vote.. everyone is equal in the voting booth, except in America.

Don't get me wrong, the management of European affairs isn't perfect. There is incompetence, abuse, misunderstandings and special interests to deal with. Some love to use Europe as the bogeyman while others idealize it and fail to hear alternative voices, but it's meeting its overarching goals of no intra European wars, free movement of goods and people, unifying monetary policies and codes to ensure equal treatment for all. Again, this construct is unique in the history of the world; it wasn't achieved by force or conquest, but by the will of the ballot box.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

I believe you're wrong on 2 counts:
1. Government already knows what's in your bank account because they know where you work and how much your job pays. If you're American and living abroad, disclosure requirements are even more detailed, from FINCEN 114 by the taxpayer and bank triggers when transferring $10k or more. More precisely, every non currency purchase made is recorded in some ledger by some business, be it credit card company or app from phone. Any purchase close to or reaching $10k triggers a validation that the customer knows or not about. In fact, some banks implement % of account holding to trigger deposit/withdrawal warnings.
2. The facts from above don't prevent the world to turn, people know and people don't care. Given the option of tighter scrutiny to catch bad actors versus government ability to snoop on your toilet paper purchases, most people will opt for more scrutiny. Only the bad actors will fight for their freedom to be or not to be bad actors.

Shit you're right.