If someone has the power, why do they position themselves as a victim?

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

One man has a machine gun with enough rounds to kill 1,000 people from 1 mile away in 5 minutes.

He is attacked by 500 people, he sees them coming from a mile away and they are not carrying any weapons.

Who has the power?

You continue to claim victim status when your beloved Israel actually has the power...

Not only that, the whole world knows the US would defend Israel with their military.

So who has the power, and who is the victim?

Quote from dddooo:

What part of 5 mln Israelis occupying less than 0.2% (two tenth of one percent) of Middle Eastern land against 350 million arabs occupying 99.8% of Middle Eastern land don't you understand?

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

He is attacked by 500 people

If he is attacked he is the victim of this attack. Duh!

 

[FanOfFridays]

As usual, this is trolling at its finest. What in the fuck does any of this mean? The Idiot Troll equates a diverse 'Arab' population with the homogenous Israeli population. This is a totally false premise.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

<b>Trolling 101:</b>

If you happen to play poker, understand that professional trolls utilize a very similar strategy: Tight-aggressive

<b>Tight:</b> Don't give the victim an inch! Never admit the possibility of ever having been wrong. Never say anything which can be remotely useful or helpful to anyone. Never provide the prey with a single word he may wish to hear. Give nothing!

<b>Aggressive:</b> Focus! Your goal is not conversation or debate, but the exact opposite- nihilism. Mercy is merely a handicap of the weak. You are a disease with only one goal in mind: <b>writing whatever it takes to piss off the victim.</b> Contradict yourself all the time, repeat the victim's words verbatim like a bratty child, take the high road and repeatedly request that the victim stay on topic, post in every single thread and then accuse the victim of 'stalking' when he shows up in one of them, make ridiculous statements- but do it assertively and repeatedly, but most importantly:

<b>Laugh when nothing is funny!
Laugh at the victim constantly, use smiley faces, and pretend to completely miss every single point he tries to make. Remember, looking like a complete idiot yourself is unavoidable if you wish to troll at the professional level.</b>

Another key troll tactic is the practice of <b>winning by losing.</b> While the victim is trying to put forward solid and convincing facts to prove his position, the troll's only goal is to infuriate its prey. The troll takes (what it knows to be) a badly flawed, wholly illogical argument, and then vigorously defends it while mocking and insulting its prey. The troll looks like a complete idiot, but this is all part of the plan. The victim becomes noticeably angry by trying to repeatedly explain the flaws of the troll's argument. Provoking this anger was the troll's one and only goal from the very beginning.

Another important trolling tip I learned by observing LoZZZer's work: The lioness does not indiscriminately launch an attack on every animal she wishes to eat. She stalks her prey, determining which specific individual antelope is weak, tired and slow. The expert troll must use this very approach, as not every post is worth trolling. ZTroll specifically waits for someone to discuss a topic which is of great personal importance to the prey. With an innate sense of unyielding discipline- a product of millions of years of painstaking troll evolution, ZTroll crouches in the brush, patiently waiting for an <b>emotional, dedicated post.</b> A post where the prey feels so strongly about a certain topic, he can't restrain his emotional enthusiasm when arguing his point. Any post of this sort in chit chat is guaranteed to spark a LoZZZer trolling effort. The predator will then deftly pounce upon its prey, pretending to laugh hysterically at the victim's strong willed, passionate assertions while distorting them in straw-man fashion. Eye on the prize, the creature will then tightly lock its fangs around the prey's neck, clinging tightly to the jugular while deftly wringing the life from its prey until the victim <i><b> cracks</i></b>- i.e., becomes highly frustrated and visibly redfaced. This in turn provides the troll with its well earned nourishment, as well as the creature's only source of sexual gratification: <b> Furious anger and anguish. </b> Thus, the circle of life continues.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1533617&highlight=trolling#post1533617

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

The man with the machine gun is the "victim of this attack" even though he slaughters all the attackers without as much as a scratch?

ROTFLMAO...

Quote from dddooo:

If he is attacked he is the victim of this attack. Duh!

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Post a link to where I wrote:

"Iran is the victim."


If not, that would indicate that you just made it up without any foundation...that would be called lying...making false claims, etc.

Quote from dddooo:
According to Z10 Iran is the victim.

Quote from dddooo:
I can't think for myself, so I will respond with the fantasy of someone else.

 

[FanOfFridays]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
He is attacked by 500 people

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
The man with the machine gun is the "victim of this attack"?

ROTFLMAO...

BUT NO!! Don't you get it? If you are attacked and you hit back, you're not defending yourself, you're seeking VENGEANCE!!! Don't you get it?

 

[dddooo]

Quote from traderNik:

BUT NO!! Don't you get it? If you are attacked and you hit back, you're not defending yourself, you're seeking VENGEANCE!!! Don't you get it?

Jeez. What was I thinking?

 

[I am...]

Sorry to disappoint. But in no case, ever, is there such thing as a victim. Everyone drives his own nails into his own hands and feet. It is made to appear that this is done by 'others'. But this is a mask. You've heard of 'suicide by cop'. Well every death is a suicide. Only the apparent cause seems to change.

If what I say is true, then you can see how insane is the mind that makes this world. And such a mind would make the truth look insane by comparison. So either the truth-teller is insane or the world is insane. You choose. But your choice determines whether the possibility of being a victim continues for you. There is no other way to end the cycle of violence except to accept the facts as they are, and reposition yourself.

The body is endangered by the mind that hurts itself. The body suffers that the mind will fail to see it is the victim of itself. The body’s suffering is a mask the mind holds up to hide what really suffers. It would not understand it is its own enemy; that it attacks itself and wants to die. It is from this your “laws”would save the body. But it is for this very attack that you think you are a body.

Attack is what a body is for...until you change your mind about it.
You cannot change your mind unless you are willing to own up to it.

Jesus

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from traderNik:

BUT NO!! Don't you get it? If you are attacked and you hit back, you're not defending yourself, you're seeking VENGEANCE!!! Don't you get it?

Yes! Clearly, Israel is the aggressor here and only trying to inflict as much pain on the Palestinians as possible.

When a suicide bomber walks into a restaurant or a bus and blows up a dozen or so innocent Israelis, why can't the IDF just politely ask that such bombings be stopped?!?

I mean shit, what are they thinking when they try to target those behind the bombings, or attack rocket positions in Gaza? The nerve of those few million Israelis! They build an oasis out of a desert, are out numbered 80 to 1, are surrounded by people who want to annihilate them, and they have the NERVE to strike back!!

Self defense? Give me a fuckin' break!! We know VENEGEANCE when we see it, yessiree!