If Liberals Think America Is So Dangerous Because Of Our Gun Laws...

[RCG Trader]

Quote from budcampbell:

I can't see anything good coming out of such a scenario, at least not for the US.

you know bud, I can see how you older fellas are upset. That sadness is that the police state is already here, and has been here for a long time now.

The Android and the I phone have cameras built in. Young people are comfortable with constant surveillance. In fact they encourage it. Facebook and Twitter see to that.

Privacy is a thing of the past, for the most part.

 

[pspr]

Quote from RCG Trader:

you know bud, I can see how you older fellas are upset.

You are really hung up on people of other races and ages than your own, Buck. I think the term for that is bigot.

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from pspr:

You are really hung up on people of other races and ages than your own, Buck. I think the term for that is bigot.

lol, defining words using the pspr dictionary is no good for you.

The only bigots here are......well we know who they are.

 

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Quote from RCG Trader:

lol, defining words using the pspr dictionary is no good for you.

The only bigots here are......well we know who they are.

Yes, we do. <font size=5 color=red><b>YOU!</b></font>

 

[budcampbell]

Quote from RCG Trader:

you know bud, I can see how you older fellas are upset. That sadness is that the police state is already here, and has been here for a long time now.

The Android and the I phone have cameras built in. Young people are comfortable with constant surveillance. In fact they encourage it. Facebook and Twitter see to that.

Privacy is a thing of the past, for the most part.

I don't have anything against technology, and have kept up to date. The technology has it's roots in military application. It can be used for good or bad. It will be used to slowly take away your rights. It is obvious. If you are comfortable with that, then the US will cease to be a free nation and you better get ready. What is amazing, is Russia seems to be moving slowly to the right, with the Orthodox Church attaining more say-so and power. The US is headed in the opposite direction of Socialism/Marxism.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Nine_Ender:

No, statistics clearly show armed citizens create a more dangerous society. Its not even debatable.

You incredibly stupid uninformed ignorant fuck. Shall I post some real statistics on the subject as I've done many times before? Of course if you're going to dismiss them out of hand then why should I bother?

I hate it went people push myths to further their politics.

But it's OK when YOU do it, like you're doing now?

The US needs gun control...

We ALREADY have gun control moron. Twenty Two THOUSAND federal state and local gun laws here in the US. If gun control was the solution we wouldn't even have a problem.

The columbine shooters broke 20 guns laws acquiring their weapons. Are you suggesting one more law would have stopped them? The Gifford shooter passed a background check. The Newtown shooter stole his weapons from his mother who had passed a background check. A criminologist in 1997 estimated that nearly 7,000 crimes a day are thwarted by armed citizens. Most never firing a shot. 11% of police shooting involve one or more innocent bystanders being shot BY THE FUCKING POLICE. Only 2% of armed citizen self defense shooting harm a bystander. More people are killed by claw hammers than assault weapons. Many many more people are killed by hospital staff errors than are killed by guns.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from RCG Trader:

I am starting to feel guilty because I realize that I am in forum populated by elderly men.

As a policy I do not try to interfere with whatever mental meme they harbor to make life easier. Getting old, and watching your world change is difficult I can imagine.

Did you imagine you'd be in your 40's, forever Buckwheat?

 

[tomdavis]

Quote from Lucrum:



The columbine shooters broke 20 guns laws acquiring their weapons. Are you suggesting one more law would have stopped them? The Gifford shooter passed a background check. The Newtown shooter stole his weapons from his mother who had passed a background check. A criminologist in 1997 estimated that nearly 7,000 crimes a day are thwarted by armed citizens. Most never firing a shot. 11% of police shooting involve one or more innocent bystanders being shot BY THE FUCKING POLICE. Only 2% of armed citizen self defense shooting harm a bystander. More people are killed by claw hammers than assault weapons. Many many more people are killed by hospital staff errors than are killed by guns.

You're right, but people don't want to hear the truth.

They only hear what they want to hear.


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Gun ownership has surged while gun crime has fallen.


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Gun crime has plunged, but Americans think it's up, says study

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-gun-crimes-pew-report-20130507,0,3022693.story

Gun crime has plunged in the United States since its peak in the middle of the 1990s, including gun killings, assaults, robberies and other crimes, two new studies of government data show.

Yet few Americans are aware of the dramatic drop, and more than half believe gun crime has risen, according to a newly released survey by the Pew Research Center.

In less than two decades, the gun murder rate has been nearly cut in half. Other gun crimes fell even more sharply, paralleling a broader drop in violent crimes committed with or without guns. Violent crime dropped steeply during the 1990s and has fallen less dramatically since the turn of the millennium.

 

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