If anyone you care about has severe refractory depression problems, HERE IS THE CURE:
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Rearden,
Not sure why you make such an empathic claim. The research you posted cannot be taken as sufficient to support your claim, nor can your personal experience.
The sad truth remains (at present) that the definitive 'cause' of depression is still unknown, and current treatments are essentially shots in the dark (though better than nothing, perhaps).
But you seem to gravitate towards extremes of expression, so your post is not out of character. Perhaps that is symptomatic in itself.
My advice: Make a deliberate effort to unburden yourself of the pervasive hostility that seems to have a grip on you. Then we will ALL feel much better.
saxon
I know that opiates are a live saver. If it was not for them, I would not be here. A lot of people know what my situation has been so I wont go much into it, but having suffered in terrible pain for a long time I am fortunate to have gone to the Mayo Clinic and been given narcotics.
That said I wonder if your depression is being amplified by the narcotics. I say this because they had me on Oxycontin for a few years and I decided I wanted to try life without it. It took several months to tapper off of it and during that time I was very depressed, sometimes nearly suicidally so. I talked to my doctor about it and he said that is very common because as a result of taking the opiates your body will naturally decrease its own endorphine production. It took about 3 months after I was totally off the oxy for me to feel better, but then I felt a lot better.
At any rate good luck with everything. I am glad you have found something that works for you and you do not suffer anymore. I do agree that someone is much better off with narcotics than without them in certain cases. I would encourage you to try a period of time without them with some antidepresant theoropy and maybe counsiling with a psychologist, but if that does not work then you have to do what you have to do in order to live your life.
Brandon
That said I wonder if your depression is being amplified by the narcotics. I say this because they had me on Oxycontin for a few years and I decided I wanted to try life without it. It took several months to tapper off of it and during that time I was very depressed, sometimes nearly suicidally so. I talked to my doctor about it and he said that is very common because as a result of taking the opiates your body will naturally decrease its own endorphine production. It took about 3 months after I was totally off the oxy for me to feel better, but then I felt a lot better.
At any rate good luck with everything. I am glad you have found something that works for you and you do not suffer anymore. I do agree that someone is much better off with narcotics than without them in certain cases. I would encourage you to try a period of time without them with some antidepresant theoropy and maybe counsiling with a psychologist, but if that does not work then you have to do what you have to do in order to live your life.
Brandon
Rearden,
Not to minimize any suffering you have endured, but do you get sufficient and regular physical exercise? As I understand it, regular and vigorous exercise is supposed to be a mood enhancer/endorphin generator and tends to have only positive side effects. It certainly moderates my lousy moods when I get them. I am not suggesting that exercise alone would alleviate your apparently severe and chronic depression, but it can certainly be a useful adjunct.
Not to minimize any suffering you have endured, but do you get sufficient and regular physical exercise? As I understand it, regular and vigorous exercise is supposed to be a mood enhancer/endorphin generator and tends to have only positive side effects. It certainly moderates my lousy moods when I get them. I am not suggesting that exercise alone would alleviate your apparently severe and chronic depression, but it can certainly be a useful adjunct.
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Brandonf, I've been hoping that you'd show up here on my thread. As I am not a chronic pain patient (At least not in the traditional sense), I've been hoping that <b>you, personaly</b> would show up here to make mince-meat out of the following well-intentioned, but dead wrong statement:
Been there, done that too.