Being that this is a trading website, has anyone pondered buying Nova Scotian waterfront property that is situated on a high bluff? Imagine seeing palm trees in NH.
Ice shelf collapse was biggest for 10,000 years
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"In my more than three decades in the government I've never witnessed such restrictions on the ability of scientists to communicate with the public."
- James Hansen
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/17/60minutes/main1415985.shtml
- James Hansen
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/17/60minutes/main1415985.shtml
I hate to defend Bush, but he has been at least talking about making changes. I liked what he said about solar energy, that we should strive for having solar panels on each residential home which will also be used to charge your plug in electric vehicle battery. I know it's only talk but it's a start. It would be awesome to make oil absolete, improve the environment and screw big oil terrorist at the same time.
ZZZzzzzzzz,
Haven't read thru all the posts here but I will point this out...
"Did the Bible predict global warming?
"Nope."
Maybe this correction has already been made somewhere in all the reply posts, sorry if it already has.
What you say about the Bible is not exactly correct.
The scriptures are filled with passages about "the last days," to paraphrase.
A couple examples:
Before the second coming of Christ...
"For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows." Mark 13:8
"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come." 2 Timothy 3:1
Could global warming be one of the catastrophic signs of the end days before Christ returns?
Yes.
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you missed the one passage that I know of that.....were it to be read literally--I strongly doubt that it should be though--could easily be seen as predicting global warming. (also note that in half the bible interpretations the word "defiled" is used instead of "polluted")
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=isaiah 24:5-6;&version=49;
"Isaiah 24:5-6 (New American Standard Bible) 5. The earth is also polluted by its inhabitants, (for) they transgressed laws, violated statutes, broke the everlasting covenant.
6. Therefore, a curse devours the earth, and those who live in it are held guilty Therefore, the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left."
Wrong again!
The Bush admistration has spent OVER 5 BILLION DOLLARS on climate research, more than any previous adminstration. Look it up. I've posted on this before, but let me remind you that global warming due to manmade activites is a THEORY.
For all the scientists you cite, I can cite an equal number, just as prestigous as yours.
Here's a link to a site with over 17,000 American scientists, 2/3 with advanced degrees that disagree with your view. Read their Petition.
http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm
The Bush admistration has spent OVER 5 BILLION DOLLARS on climate research, more than any previous adminstration. Look it up. I've posted on this before, but let me remind you that global warming due to manmade activites is a THEORY.
For all the scientists you cite, I can cite an equal number, just as prestigous as yours.
Here's a link to a site with over 17,000 American scientists, 2/3 with advanced degrees that disagree with your view. Read their Petition.
http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm
I had a completely different experience in 1960's Chicago. Granted each of our remembrances are based on the geography, demographics and economics of the place we're "sampling."
To those in the West and the fast growing Southern cities it must seem things are getting worse. I imagine in your lifetime Z the population of California has near quadrupled. It's only natural that you've seen firsthand the degradation of nature. Many of the old industrial cities of the North have seen the opposite.
When I was growing up, Lake Michigan was polluted. I grew up in a riparian property and know the habits of the lake well. Today you can wade offshore and see the bottom. The air quality in Chicago was also abysmal. Cars burning leaded fuel, the stench of factories, steel mills in Gary, the Chicago Stockyards and the 1967 alewife invasion filled the nostrils with stench. And in the beautiful Chicago summers I burnt. Skin cancer incidence rising? I would hope so! Just as I would hope reported prostate cancer is soaring. Why? Because a generation ago most of those old enough to suffer from those cancers were dead from other shit before they could live long enough to get skin cancer.
The transition from industrial to techno/service has cleaned up Chicago, St.Louis, Gary, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh and many other smaller cities. Of course the loss of polluting jobs also meant a permanently unemployed underclass in many of those cities. It's funny that the lefties always take their socialist shot at the greedy capitalists who pollute to gain profit. I'm sure both true and untrue. But what's always true is that those polluting enterprises employ MANY low skilled workers who America has displaced in spades.
BTW: What is China and India's take on environmental impositions. I bet they both ultimately say "fuck you" to the West. I can see it now. The West telling the East to not pollute is like Teddy Kennedy telling young wage earners to "pay their fair share." Yea right. After you guy's rule the world from your ill gains, now the rest of us should play square. No way. Now that the West doesn't need to cut down rain forest and build huge factories (with our labor costs, tax structure and regulations we can't compete anymore in most manufactured goods) we can safely preach to the world's Asiatic emerging wealthy. We're whistling Dixie.
Pabst,
I will say this about you. While I often disagree with your point of view on any number of topics, there is no denying that you present your arguments well. (Most of the time.
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I will say this about you. While I often disagree with your point of view on any number of topics, there is no denying that you present your arguments well. (Most of the time.
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