Ice Melting at North AND South Poles

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Did I say I was a scientist? I was an Aerographer's Mate. Look it up dumb fuck. I'll help you.

"Aerographer's Mates observe, collect, record and analyze meteorological and oceanographic data; make visual and instrument observations of weather and sea conditions; operate meteorological satellite receivers and interpret and apply satellite data; interpret and brief radar imagery and data; interpret meteorological and oceanographic codes; verify meteorological and oceanographic products; evaluate recent meteorological and oceanographic developments for integration into local routines and enter data on appropriate charts; operate ancillary equipment for the processing, dissemination and display of environmental data; perform preventive maintenance on meteorological and oceanographic equipment; prepare warnings of severe and hazardous weather and sea conditions; forecast meteorological and oceanographic conditions; and prepare and present briefings concerning current and predicted environmental conditions and their effect on operations."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerographer's_Mate

That means I was providing data the scientists use, in case you're too stupid to figure that out, or too indoctrinated.
 
Armed with the knowledge that CO2 is greenhouse gas, and levels are up 30% over the last hundred years from man's burning of fossil fuels, and these charts, the conclusion is inescapable.



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Armed with the knowledge that CO2 is greenhouse gas, and levels are up 30% over the last hundred years from man's burning of fossil fuels, and these charts, the conclusion is inescapable.



PlanetaryClimateGraphsNOAA.jpg

No dispute, as I've tried to indicate to drone FT. I have considerable respect for Keeling and his work. I simply don't trust power hungry politicians to have our best interest at heart. I have much more faith in scientists, though not all of them. A middle ground would be OK. (This may come as a surprise to you, but I don't trust big industry, either.)
 
Quote from wjk:

No dispute, as I've tried to indicate to drone FT. I have considerable respect for Keeling and his work.


that must be where this jewel of brilliance came from:



"I believe Mother Nature will take care of AGW. It won't be pleasant, but the planet has a way of balancing out temperature variances over time. I'd rather let her take care of it than a bunch of power mad progressives."
 
Quote from wjk:

Nothing. It was a metaphor. It's all pollution as far as I'm concerned. I hate pollution of all stripes. I would think that the people who give a fuck about air pollution would also care about land pollution. Am I wrong?

AGW has the potential to result in the deaths of millions of people, cause the extinction of a third of the planets species, raise sea levels 50 feet, acidify the oceans and crash the marine ecosystem. And then we have some unsightly litter. Maybe you want to rethink your priorities.

I hate pollution of all types also and have been known to climb trees to remove a plastic bag. I used to worry about nuclear power, acid rain, PCB's, mercury etc.. These things pale in comparison to the catastrophe that the earth faces via CO2 pollution. Those other worries have become trivial in my mind. I now welcome nuclear power.

Fixing the problem WILL require "big bad government".
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

that must be where this jewel of brilliance came from:



"I believe Mother Nature will take care of AGW. It won't be pleasant, but the planet has a way of balancing out temperature variances over time. I'd rather let her take care of it than a bunch of power mad progressives."

I was being sarcastic (though the truth of it is, there will be stronger storms. If you understood the theory of three cell circulation, and you might, you know that), though I'm not convinced gov has our best interest at heart. Certainly you don't, do you? All jousting aside, do you really trust government that much? I don't.

I would be interested in real incentives, not force. How bout you?
 
Quote from futurecurrents:


Fixing the problem WILL require "big bad government".

And will they stop there? Why not just dictate every aspect of our lives for the good of the planet? Seriously, you know what power does to people. The more they can get, the more they will want. How much of your freedom are you willing to sacrifice?
 
more b.s. from our resident crazy leftist.

just a few months ago we posted info about record or almost record sea ice in antartic.

so I have no idea where you get your screwy alarmist stuff... but this is just one more piece of shit in a long line of your ignorance.

and data from your screwball guys with the fake emails in london show we have not been warming for 15 years.


Quote from Free Thinker:

Ice Melting at North AND South Poles. nothing to worry about. every right winger,because fox news tells him so, that global warming isnt happening. in fact i am sure a few of you will even claim we are cooling:

Dear denialists:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/1...ampaign=Feed:+TheBigPicture+(The+Big+Picture)
 
Quote from jem:

more b.s. from our resident crazy leftist.

just a few months ago we posted info about record or almost record sea ice in antartic.

so I have no idea where you get your screwy alarmist stuff... but this is just one more piece of shit in a long line of your ignorance.

and data from your screwball guys with the fake emails in london show we have not been warming for 15 years.

jem, you are an ideologically crazed idiot. You're stupidity is so complete that it must be forced. We totally debunked these two "arguments" last time. You are unable or unwilling to see obvious truth or acknowledge it. Why don't you crawl back under what ever rock you crawled out of? The stupidity of people like you regarding GW is bordering on criminal now.
 
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