Ice age data bolsters greenhouse gas, warming link

[futurecurrents]

Bla bla bla......No the question is....can you answer a simple question.


IS CO2 A GREENHOUSE GAS ?

Quote from jem:

1. The earth is a dynamic system. It can accumulate and dissipate CO2 in the atmosphere and has done so in cycles in the past.

2. in the ice core histories we see that as temps rise CO2 accumulation lags behind.

So we see the earth warming... the warmer air to hold more CO2.

Similar to the way warmer air holds more moisture.

If the air cools the moisture will get dissipated.
So will the CO2.

So in this theory... man made co2 would not be the driver... it would be temperature. This theory is consistent with earth history.

The question then becomes what causes the accumulation of the CO2... not whether CO2 holds the heat in.

 

[jem]

Quote from futurecurrents:

Bla bla bla......No the question is....can you answer a simple question.


IS CO2 A GREENHOUSE GAS ?

you state I already have and I have..
what causes CO2 to accumulate and what causes it to dissipate.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from jem:

what causes CO2 to accumulate

that's an easy one. Evil conservatives, multinational corporations and capitalism in general

what causes it to dissipate.

Another easy one. Why carbon taxes, of course.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from futurecurrents:

Bla bla bla......No the question is....can you answer a simple question.

IS CO2 A GREENHOUSE GAS ?

jem has admitted today that he does not wish to employ discipline in his responses on P&R. So unless you (and I) wish to go along and pump the site owner's pageview count, continuing to debate jem is pointless.

 

[jem]

Quote from Ricter:

jem has admitted today that he does not wish to employ discipline in his responses on P&R. So unless you (and I) wish to go along and pump the site owner's pageview count, continuing to debate jem is pointless.

what are you talking about.

you are the ones who posted detritus. I gave a little back.

And both of you know by now that whether CO2 is a greenhouse gas is irrelevant to me.

what is relevant is what caused CO2 to accumulate and dissipate in the ice core histories and how you would know whether something natural - is - or is not - the driver again.

I submit to you.. that everything you believe is superfluous ... until you can answer the above.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from jem:

what are you talking about.

"I have to be pretty disciplined with the rest of my life, I have 4 kids, I run a business with workers, I put on trades with stop losses... I really prefer not to practice such discipline while posting on elitetrader."

Nothing wrong with this and I think you're honorable for telling us.

 

[jem]

that was from another thread, when someone asked me to stop pointing out the flawed polling methodology.

what has that got to do with this thread.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from jem:

you state I already have and I have..
what causes CO2 to accumulate and what causes it to dissipate.

The recent accumulation of CO2 is mostly from man's burning of fossil fuels.

Historically speaking it dissipates as it's absorbed by the oceans and sequestered in living things that are then removed from the carbon cycle by falling to the seafloor etc.

 

[Spike Trader]

Quote from jem:

that was from another thread, when someone asked me to stop pointing out the flawed polling methodology.

what has that got to do with this thread.

It has the same DNA . . . . Jem..

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from futurecurrents:

The recent accumulation of CO2 is mostly from man's burning of fossil fuels.

What caused all the other increases in CO2, before man was burning fossil fuels?