IB will eliminate intraday margin reductions. Commencing at 12:00 EST today

Quote from osorico:

And that is exactly why IB sucks, at least for futures trading.

As a business, if a supplier is not consistent and reliable you'd find a different supplier. In the case of IB you just sit quietly in the corner as your prices go up 50% in one fell swoop and you adjust the core of your business? That's exactly what IB is hoping you do.

As a business, I'd hate to have myself levered up so that the first volatile thing that happens I'm out of business.

But let's not blame IB for protecting their business just because you and others want to roll the dice.

OldTrader
 
Quote from OldTrader:

As a business, I'd hate to have myself levered up so that the first volatile thing that happens I'm out of business.

But let's not blame IB for protecting their business just because you and others want to roll the dice.

OldTrader

That's the best you got old man? Calling me and all other INTRADAY traders gamblers?

And no I don't blame IB for running their business as they see fit. But if the running of their business affects the core of my business adversely, I wouldn't just shrug my shoulders.
 
Quote from osorico:

That's the best you got old man? Calling me and all other INTRADAY traders gamblers?

And no I don't blame IB for running their business as they see fit. But if the running of their business affects the core of my business adversely, I wouldn't just shrug my shoulders.

I agree 100%


Oh and OldTrader not all of us want to be "old" traders.
 
Quote from osorico:

That's the best you got old man? Calling me and all other INTRADAY traders gamblers?

And no I don't blame IB for running their business as they see fit. But if the running of their business affects the core of my business adversely, I wouldn't just shrug my shoulders.

Let me go back over what you evidently missed when you read my post.

No one running a business levers it up such that extreme volatility would put him out of business. Read that line two or three times. So if you're counting on $2250 margin to trade the ES, or $500, or whatever, it's not a business. You're rolling the dice.

But I did not say that all intraday traders are gamblers. Just those that use minimum intraday margins.

OldTrader
 
Quote from osorico:

That's the best you got old man? Calling me and all other INTRADAY traders gamblers?

And no I don't blame IB for running their business as they see fit. But if the running of their business affects the core of my business adversely, I wouldn't just shrug my shoulders.

LOL
What are you going to do? Transfer your money out ???
Close your account ???
 
Quote from lsudaytrade:

intraday initial margin for ER2 is now $5200/lot ?

No, it is $5250.

By the way, OldTrader, you and other experienced traders are the only reason why it is worthwhile to visit this forum from time to time.
As the saying goes there are the old traders and the bold traders.
 
Quote from OldTrader:

Let me go back over what you evidently missed when you read my post.

No one running a business levers it up such that extreme volatility would put him out of business. Read that line two or three times. So if you're counting on $2250 margin to trade the ES, or $500, or whatever, it's not a business. You're rolling the dice.

But I did not say that all intraday traders are gamblers. Just those that use minimum intraday margins.

OldTrader

So to be sure I understand this old-geezer way of thinking...

To determine whether or not a trader is gambling or trading is directly correlated and determined by the amount of money used to make a trade.
 
Quote from osorico:

So to be sure I understand this old-geezer way of thinking...

To determine whether or not a trader is gambling or trading is directly correlated and determined by the amount of money used to make a trade.

I guess it is more about risk management.
There are pro gamblers who have an edge and can play it because they handle the risk right.
 
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