IB - PLEASE stop those new "features"

"A while ago we have implemented the feature selector. It allows you to chose and activate the features YOU use."

by de-selecting features does this reduce the workload on the computer? or is this just a cosmetic thing?



is 15 secs to bring up a chart normal, and 30 secs to login normal btw?

thanks

p.s. on 1.7ghz, 512mb ram machine
 
Adding to my initial post,

I used the feature selector already to disable the RSS feed, Book Trader (don't need - use API), Alarms and many other items.

Despite, I got the task manager screenshot I embedded into my post.

What I think is problematic, is that this new build gets so really slow after opening / closing / re-opening some of the modules (e.g. Option Trader). It is mainly due to Java overhead and (badly working) garbage collecting process, but more features will cause more problems, I'm sure.


After all, the last thing I wanted to achieve, is people at IB (and others) getting bothered because of these issues on Good Friday, so let me apologize for the obviously bad time.
 
Quote from local_crusher:

It is mainly due to Java overhead and (badly working) garbage collecting process, but more features will cause more problems, I'm sure.
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This is by design. Java is designed to defer garbage collection as long as possible. If there is lots of free RAM and no processes are thrashing, then the amount of memory consumed by the JVM will keep increasing until the heap grows to the maximum allocation or until the JVM or another process requests a block larger than is available in the heap.

If you are concerned by the amount of RAM allocated to TWS then you can simply minimize the frame. This will FORCE an immediate garbage collection cycle, freeing all the temporary objects. After minimizing, you will see that the amount of RAM allocated to the JVM task is vastly reduced.

If you need even more control over the memory management heuristics, java has a number of different garbage collectors available. Depending on your machine configuration and if you are willing to spend the time testing, you can vastly improve the JVM performance.

See this for more info:
http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/gc5.0/gc_tuning_5.html
 
Still have folks whining about the features, when , unless there's some horrible bug, THEY DO NOT IMPACT YOUR TRADING IF YOU DO NOT USE THEM.

TWS memory usage is not an issue on any modern computer with a decent amount of memory.

Instead of random nebulous complaints, give a specific issue. "My 386 with 128 meg of ram is having trouble with the latest build" . Something like that.
 
Quote from local_crusher:

First, I really love IB (however, the backend...) because they allow me to do retail what I was forced to do at a firm / local years ago.
When you count everything together, the Universal Account, their offering of many markets and the commish, they are the best overall broker -
except for the software.

I will criticize IB only when I feel it is really neccessary, but this important to me:

My plea is: Please, Please IB, stop the "Bells and Whistles".

This week I had the pleasure to upgrade to the latest TWS build.
(I am one of the guys who stick to their old & running TWS version for months)

When I first ran it - it didn't. Unlike it's predecessors it seems to need access to port 80, which I block on my firewall (for reasons).
After I enabled port 80 I found out it needs the http port to download, load + open a 9 megabyte manual .jar archive.
Nice, but I certainly will never need this thing.

Instead of running now - It crashed (TWS window just hang / didn't repaint for minutes).
Killed the process, restarted it - crashed again.
Repeat, now it came up, finally.

After trying some of the new features & bringing up some charts just to have a look at the program, I noticed the java hog slooooows down.

Please look at this excerpt of my win task manager:
jtstaskmgr8ay.png



Notice, the host machine is a fast Athlon64 with 3 gigs RAM.
After tampering around for 10 mins I have a CPU time of 6.5 mins.
Opening a new window in TWS often hangs the program
for 10-20 secs.
I think more of this stuff is not bearable.
My conclusion is, while IB seems to have really good programmers for the backend, they _have_ to change their development policy for the frontend.

Please re-focus on your active customers. Did they need an integrated manual or Google RSS feed in the past years ? I guess, NO...

The only guys needing this sort of features are prolly those buying 85 shs of CSCO, later yelling at the customer service because their trail-o-stop triggered 15 seconds late costing them serious money

Not to be misunderstood - I love it when IB adds useful features,
like the vola-market scanner, the option trader or interesting new API functions.
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I downloaded the latest build in the last week or so. I don't have any problem of the type you describe. Makes me wonder what the source of your problems really is.

OldTrader
 
Absolutely no problems here either. I don't know what 'features' I am running. I never use anything but booktrader for entering orders. My charting is from a third party, and I'm not even sure what the other features of TWS are. BTW, I run a gig of ram with my data and charts, and also internet surfing. No CPU resource probs.

Jay
 
10-20sec is quite some time,...try reduce u number of symbols and eliminate volumes data if u have it on; things should improve a bit.
 
Quote from RedManPlus:

After reading about the incredible level of problems the last 2 weeks...
I will never install an IB upgrade without trepidation...
And I will continue to run older versions for weeks or months.

Essentially... they are pressuring traders to install Beta versions of software.
Is IB that isolated from the software world?

Standard practice is certain hardcore users Beta test new versions...
While everybody else runs older "stable" versions.

Also... standard practice since the early 90s...
Is that power users "custom install" only the modules that pertain to them...
Instead of running a bloated beast.

Oh-oh... here come the apologists from IB...
To tell us that we don't have a clue... and to stop "griping".

rm+

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RedmanPlus,

You are coming across as a moron, dickhead, or just an arrogant shite here. (* yes, i really enjoyed that, I've been nice to so many people including my teenagers that its a pure pleasure to tell you what a halfwit you are :) *)

I am one you might classify as an IB apologist ... but I'm not, I simply enjoy taking the piss from some of the complete idiots that attack IB.

In this case the answer is simple ... my version of TWS is now a couple of months old and I see no reason to ever upgrade in a hurry. Why would I need to? From time to time I download a stable version of the "latest" features but I sure don't use it unless I need it.

I did upgrade to the latest version for 857 just to see how it was running. It seemed fine. But I like 854 so I dropped back to that and am very happy with it :)

Thanks for that opportunity to chat.

By comparison with your post, localcrusher's was pretty reasonable. Except that I don't know why he did the upgrade in the first place. And why he doesnt just drop back if he doesnt like it. lc, let me know if u want a copy of 854 dropped on an ftp site somewhere.
 
Quote from kiwi_trader:


In this case the answer is simple ... my version of TWS is now a couple of months old...[...]

I did upgrade to the latest version for 857 just to see how it was running. It seemed fine. But I like 854 so I dropped back to that and am very happy with it :)
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yeah, but with 854 i cant use me crayons and paint booktrader columns as i wish...sniff :(
 
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