IB commissions for low priced stocks

Quote from Trader_Herry:

But this is not a direct-access firm. :(
It is, although for Bulletin Board stocks the routing choices may be limited to NSDQ (INET) or ARCA. When I wanted to buy some Refco stock the day it dropped 99%, my Ameritrade order sat there while trades below my bid got printed. Finally had to go to Schwab to get filled.
 
Quote from DHOHHI:

You're 100% wrong on price improvement at MB. I get it on probably 10% of my trades. And I also do 98% of my trades buying (covering) at the bid and selling (shorting) at the ask. So your point above holds no water.

And although I don't have plan C (I use Plan A) at MB the $4.95 flat rate for up to 4000 shares does beat anything IB offers doesn't it? That's 0.0012/share for a 4000 share order. And if one had any brains they'd submit two 4K orders and one 2K order (for 10K shares), resulting in a total one way cost of $14.85 (3 x $4.95). Same on sell side .. total round trip cost is under $30!

LMAO, its not my point, it's what's written on their website, 'the routin' system under the plan will not be seekin' price improvement although it might happened u get a better price'...and i just made an assumption about buyin' the bid/sellin' ask, read carefully; i said 'prolly'.
 
Quote from DHOHHI:

Not everyone charges $100 round trip on 10K of a $3 stock. Since you took pot shots at MB you might try looking at Plan B .. $9.95 for unlimited shares plus ECN fees. Using INET on 10K shares would be another $25, or $34.95 each way. So you'd save $30 over your example.

Or break the order up as I suggested in the prior post and you pay $30 round trip under plan C.

thx, i'll have a better look at it and maybe open an acct with 'em.
 
Quote from Trader_Herry:
Plan C is flat rates up to 4000 shares.
After that, it is not flat rates ($0.01 per shares).

Anyway I just point out some direct-access brokers do offer flat-rates. Sure they have additional conditions or terms.


If you read the details in the "Read More..." page, you'll find that this is not what most would not consider to be direct-access. One might want to investigate exactly what the "MBTR" route is, and whether your order is being sold to a MM.

(Edit) Note that I'm not bashing or even faulting MB here (unlike the rhetoric that usually enters into these discussions). They clearly describe what they are doing, and anyone that takes this business seriously realizes that people have to make a profit to stay in business.
 
ok, today i got in a $2 stock to see how much i had to pay in commish and was pretty much astonished to find out i paid $16.88 for a 2000shares trade...man that's seriously DEAR. 2ticks aint enough to breakeven; u still down a few dollars at the 3rd tick, and at the 4th tick u begin to make some money. this is absurd: it's a 2% move just to breakeven. are u ib guys goin' to give us a chance to trade this stuff or not?
 
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ok, today i got in a $2 stock to see how much i had to pay in commish and was pretty much astonished to find out i paid $16.88 for a 2000shares trade...man that's seriously DEAR. 2ticks aint enough to breakeven; u still down a few dollars at the 3rd tick, and at the 4th tick u begin to make some money. this is absurd: it's a 2% move just to breakeven. are u ib guys goin' to give us a chance to trade this stuff or not?

bundled or unbundled because your math doesn't add up.

.005 *2000 = $10
.002*2000*$2= $8

$8 < $10 and thus your fee should be $8

each tick =.01

2000*.01 = $20

$20-16 = $4 and thus you make money on a 1 penny move.
 
Quote from def:

bundled or unbundled because your math doesn't add up.

.005 *2000 = $10
.002*2000*$2= $8

$8 < $10 and thus your fee should be $8

each tick =.01

2000*.01 = $20

$20-16 = $4 and thus you make money on a 1 penny move.

bundled and its not question of math not addin' up...these are the real costs: i got in at 2.11 and got out at 2.11 after 1tick [theoretical b/e]. r/t costed me $16.88. its just not feasable to trade 'em with this structure...and u wont make money with 1tick beacuse there's a spread.
 
Quote from Bitstream:

bundled and its not question of math not addin' up...these are the real costs: i got in at 2.11 and got out at 2.11 after 1tick [theoretical b/e]. r/t costed me $16.88. its just not feasable to trade 'em with this structure.

if you got out at 2.12 or 1 penny you would have made money. you stated you needed 4 ticks, that isn't true.
 
Quote from def:

if you got out at 2.12 or 1 penny you would have made money. you stated you needed 4 ticks, that isn't true.

ok, sorry about that; got confused by the pnl prices on booktrader. still, if the stock is quoted at 2.10/2.11 u get in at 2.11 kk? the stock gotta move 1tick otherwise u have to get out at 1tick loss due to the spread, after that u gotta pay commisions so that's 2ticks..of course at the second tick u begin to make some money but u do understand the costs cover almost the whole tick value...the 3th tick is where u begin to make money based on the shares u bot. on a $2 stock u need the stock to move 1% to cover costs. to me is not reasonable to say u can trade this stuff with acceptable r/r.
 
def, what it boils down to is that if u lower costs for these stocks u'd attract much more biz, cuz frankly there's no way am gonna trade em if they stay as they are and i think most everyone, except prolly gamblers or insiders wouldnt either. i mean, considerin' the min tick, who on his right mind would take the risk of buildin' a big position when they move the same as regular stocks .. i think u got everythin' to gain and nothin' to lose.
 
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