IB - Booktrader 906 no more single click!

Quote from BlueStreek:

IB needs to stop messing around with their tools unless they are going to improve them.

The new chart colors are too bright, keep the old ones.
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No way! the chart colors are finally visible! In fact I can now build almost an identical chart to the ones I use with Quotetracker. A big step forward imo. They could still use some integration on the right click settings though. They need to integrate chart parameters into that right click menu.

Keep it up IB.:)
 
What IB really needs to do is to start listening what their customers have to say!

The current BT order confirmation popup window could be placed a tad lower compared to the cursor location, in a way that “transmit button” and cursor placement would be in line. That would enable fast, uninterrupted double click order entry that is almost as fast as the previous solution. No legal conflict. I have made this suggestion through different channels but all they have to say is a) submit it to the features poll or b) the solution is designed by lawyers, end of discussion. And of course, Booktrader suggestions are not promoted to the features poll currently…dead end.

Damn, they should at least have that much common sense that enables to make an immediate judgment on whether a specific suggestion clearly improves the application or is just another interesting addition/modification to consider. There is a very big difference. An innovative high-tech company that IB considers himself to be should appreciate every bit of customer feedback and if it benefits most of the product users, implement it without tons of bureaucracy.
 
Quote from BlueStreek:

Book Trader, by the time you click on the popup, your price isn`t there anymore, the antithesis of scalping: where you have literally a second to get that price before it moves.
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Wow, really glad I stumbled across this thread. The last time I updated my IB, the centering feature in Booktrader became annoying and as a result I decided not to updade it any longer, so I had no knowledge of this popup in Booktrader.

I trade CL and in the time it would take to confirm an order, chances are the entry price would be long gone. I sometimes have trouble getting filled as it is when I sell the bid/buy the ask.

Looks like it's time to investigate other options in case upgrading becomes mandatory :eek:
 
Based on the latest TT v. eSpeed case developments (Feb, 25, 2010), it’s safe to say that until October (next court hearing IB v. TT, 10/4/2010) and beyond the current Booktrader solution is here to stay. The same should apply to IB’s competitors, Cunningham, Stellar, thinkorswim, Futurepath, Tradestation among others*.

*http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuit-related-cases.asp?ID=53884


Trading Techs. Int’l, Inc. v. eSpeed, Inc., Case Nos. 2008-1392,-1393 & -1922, Slip Op. (Fed. Cir. Feb. 25, 2010) (Rader, J.) (Clark, J. concurring).

Writing for a panel including Judge Lourie and Eastern District of Texas District Judge Clark, Judge Rader affirmed each of the challenged decisions from Judge Moran’s jury trial in this patent litigation involving futures trading software.

After a de novo review of his decisions, the Court upheld Judge Moran’s constructions. “Static display of prices” meant "a display of prices comprising price levels that do not change positions unless a manual re-centering command is received." And a “static condition” meant that “the price axis never changes positions unless by manual re-centering or re-positioning.” While Judge Moran’s constructions may have appeared narrower than the patent intended initially, they were supported by both the intrinsic and extrinsic evidence. Because eSpeed’s Dual Dynamic and eSpeedmeter systems had mandatory re-centering features, they did not literally infringe.

Doctrine of Equivalents
The court upheld Judge Moran's ruling that the doctrine of equivalents did not apply to the static elements in the claim. Even if the accused products only re-centered once or twice a day, allowing that re-centering to be captured by the doctrine of equivalents would vitiate the claims. Furthermore, prosecution history estoppel also barred equivalents. The patentee differentiated his invention by explaining that its "price axis do[es] not move."

Indefiniteness
The Court held that "single action of a user input device" was not indefinite. Judge Moran correctly construed the term as requiring "an action by a user within a short period." One of ordinary skill in the art could distinguish between single and multiple actions, even when a "single action" was a double-click.

The district court construed “single action of a user input device” to mean “an action by a user within a short period of time that may comprise one or more clicks of a mouse button or other input device.” Although a “short period of time” may vary slightly from one circumstance to the next, an artisan of ordinary skill in the art would not find the term insolubly ambiguous.” In fact, eSpeed’s expert agreed that the following actions are all single actions: a single mouse click, double mouse clicks, a single key press, and a modal shift on the keyboard. eSpeed’s expert also agreed that other actions, such as a right click followed by a left click, and pressing two keys in sequential order, constituted multiple actions.)

source: http://www.chicagoiplitigation.com/tags/trading-technologies/
 
No way! the chart colors are finally visible! In fact I can now build almost an identical chart to the ones I use with Quotetracker. A big step forward imo.

maybe its too bright for the widescreen monitors i use, top of the line, but maybe they accentuate the ccolor brightness, but i cannot look at those colors for very long.

I will either get nt, and use their charts or just manually change the default colors.

i haven`t checked but hopefully i can keep the dot fills on my charts, and exclude the fill boxes on the charts by declining this option, otherwise, I guess I will have to get rid of chart fills completely-which I actually like.
 
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