I would like to thank the folks who voted to 'Leave' the EU

[jem]

really... many legal commentators would say that they are just different ways to explain the same thing.
Here a few explanations and gross negligence. Notice the use of the word extreme.
it would seem that gross and extreme can be used interchangeably.

and someone who careless exercises here duties as she violates them is acting negligently.

Therefore, arguably (I would say very arguably) gross negligence and extreme carelessness is the same thing.




Gross Negligence

An indifference to, and a blatant violation of, a legal duty with respect to the rights of others.

Gross negligence is a conscious and voluntary disregard of the need to use reasonable care, which is likely to causeforeseeable grave injury or harm to persons, property, or both. It is conduct that is extreme when compared with ordinaryNegligence, which is a mere failure to exercise reasonable care. Ordinary negligence and gross negligence differ in degreeof inattention, while both differ from willful and wanton conduct, which is conduct that is reasonably considered to causeinjury. This distinction is important, since contributory negligence—a lack of care by the plaintiff that combines with thedefendant's conduct to cause the plaintiff's injury and completely bar his or her action—is not a defense to willful and wantonconduct but is a defense to gross negligence. In addition, a finding of willful and wanton misconduct usually supports arecovery of Punitive Damages, whereas gross negligence does not.

West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.
gross negligence
n. carelessness in reckless disregard for the safety or lives of others, which is so great it appears to be a consciousviolation of other people's rights to safety. It is more than simple inadvertence, but it is just shy of being intentionally evil. Ifone has borrowed or contracted to take care of another's property, then gross negligence is the failure to actively take thecare one would of his/her own property. If gross negligence is found by the trier of fact (judge or jury), it can result in theaward of punitive damages on top of general and special damages. (See: negligence, damages, punitive damages)

Copyright © 1981-2005 by Gerald N. Hill and Kathleen T. Hill. All Right reserved.
gross negligence
see NEGLIGENCE.
Collins Dictionary of Law © W.J. Stewart, 2006
GROSS NEGLIGENCE. Lata culpa, or, as the Roman lawyers most accurately call it) dolo proxima, is, in practice,considered as equivalent to dolus or fraud itself, and consists, according to the best interpreters, in the omission of thatcare which even inattentive and thoughtless men never fail to take of their own property. Jones on Bailments, 20. It mustnot be confounded, however, with fraud, for it may exist consistently with good faith and honesty of intention, according tocommon law authorities.

A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.

you still don't get it?

There is a legal difference between grossly negligent vs extremely careless.

you still don't get it?

There is a legal difference between grossly negligent vs extremely careless.

 

[jem]

you are going to have to go through the many statues she violated.
the clinton apologists are all intentionally confusing you.

for instance...

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
(a)
Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
(b)
For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
(c)
In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.








she violated the law but she is not being prosecuted.

you will see that with most statutes the intention was to do the act that violated the law.
the intention to break the law is not necessary. (under most laws.)

when you go through a stop light... do you have to intend the light was red? or just be driving into the intersection as it is red?

the "intentional" in the report aims at intentionally aiding the distribution of classified material. Clinton intentionally set up her email server but not with the intention to distribute or to expose classified material. If you do not understand that basic difference then there is no point in arguing. Yes she was careless but not to the degree that would categorize her actions as being "grossly negligent".

And yes, let's all admit that there could be other GAs that might have argued differently. But this particular GA did not see the actions of HC as being grossly negligent. Every lawyer and every judge in the country, whether on the left or right sight of the bench admits that a point can be made for either "grossly negligent" or just "extremely careless". At some point you need to accept that a majority voted Democrats into power and your constitution stipulates who nominates federal and supreme court justices, who staffs the FBI and other governmental bodies. At some point you need to accept that a majority choose Democratic powers and not Republican powers to be at the steering wheel this time around. All else will only show that you are anti-democratic.

 

[conduit]

Our lawyer with community college degree is giving elite trader members special discounts in July. Only 2 more weeks before the discounts end. Folks, hurry up while it lasts.

To your post, yes you are right and there are many not just legal commentators but many judges and law professors of leading universities who do argue that Hillary's actions were not grossly negligent. Welcome to the United States of Bullshit. Wanna exchange your passport for a Mexican one? I don't think so.

really... many legal commentators would say that they are just different ways to explain the same thing.
Here a few explanations and gross negligence. Notice the use of the word extreme.
it would seem that gross and extreme can be used interchangeably.

and someone who careless exercises here duties as she violates them is acting negligently.

Therefore, arguably (I would say very arguably) gross negligence and extreme carelessness is the same thing.




Gross Negligence

An indifference to, and a blatant violation of, a legal duty with respect to the rights of others.

Gross negligence is a conscious and voluntary disregard of the need to use reasonable care, which is likely to causeforeseeable grave injury or harm to persons, property, or both. It is conduct that is extreme when compared with ordinaryNegligence, which is a mere failure to exercise reasonable care. Ordinary negligence and gross negligence differ in degreeof inattention, while both differ from willful and wanton conduct, which is conduct that is reasonably considered to causeinjury. This distinction is important, since contributory negligence—a lack of care by the plaintiff that combines with thedefendant's conduct to cause the plaintiff's injury and completely bar his or her action—is not a defense to willful and wantonconduct but is a defense to gross negligence. In addition, a finding of willful and wanton misconduct usually supports arecovery of Punitive Damages, whereas gross negligence does not.

West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.
gross negligence
n. carelessness in reckless disregard for the safety or lives of others, which is so great it appears to be a consciousviolation of other people's rights to safety. It is more than simple inadvertence, but it is just shy of being intentionally evil. Ifone has borrowed or contracted to take care of another's property, then gross negligence is the failure to actively take thecare one would of his/her own property. If gross negligence is found by the trier of fact (judge or jury), it can result in theaward of punitive damages on top of general and special damages. (See: negligence, damages, punitive damages)

Copyright © 1981-2005 by Gerald N. Hill and Kathleen T. Hill. All Right reserved.
gross negligence
see NEGLIGENCE.
Collins Dictionary of Law © W.J. Stewart, 2006
GROSS NEGLIGENCE. Lata culpa, or, as the Roman lawyers most accurately call it) dolo proxima, is, in practice,considered as equivalent to dolus or fraud itself, and consists, according to the best interpreters, in the omission of thatcare which even inattentive and thoughtless men never fail to take of their own property. Jones on Bailments, 20. It mustnot be confounded, however, with fraud, for it may exist consistently with good faith and honesty of intention, according tocommon law authorities.

A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.

 

[conduit]

You know exactly you are talking out of your arse and you know exactly that a very fine case can be made to not call her actions grossly negligent. I admit it's not clear cut and careful interpretation of the law is necessary.

So, why don't we just give you couple days to vent. I am sure you will have calmed down in a few days and then you will see what we are talking about. Wanna give it a break and calm down a little?

you are going to have to go through the many statues she violated.
the clinton apologists are all intentionally confusing you.

for instance...

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
(a)
Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
(b)
For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
(c)
In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.








she violated the law but she is not being prosecuted.

you will see that with most statutes the intention was to do the act that violated the law.
the intention to break the law is not necessary. (under most laws.)

when you go through a stop light... do you have to intend the light was red? or just be driving into the intersection as it is red?

 

[jem]

here we see another lefty who after being shown to be wrong... projects his inner feelings of inadequacy on others.

by the way... he has zero knowledge of my background.

Our lawyer with community college degree is giving elite trader members special discounts in July. Only 2 more weeks before the discounts end. Folks, hurry up while it lasts.

To your post, yes you are right and there are many not just legal commentators but many judges and law professors of leading universities who do argue that Hillary's actions were not grossly negligent. Welcome to the United States of Bullshit. Wanna exchange your passport for a Mexican one? I don't think so.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

he has zero knowledge of my background.

I thought zero knowledge was your background.

 

[jem]

I was out of the country for 2 weeks. I came back and I saw voluminous posts of bullshit by you. I simply corrected a few of your bullshit posts.

I am not ranting or venting.
While I had hoped for justice... I knew better than to expect it with this administration.

You know exactly you are talking out of your arse and you know exactly that a very fine case can be made to not call her actions grossly negligent. I admit it's not clear cut and careful interpretation of the law is necessary.

So, why don't we just give you couple days to vent. I am sure you will have calmed down in a few days and then you will see what we are talking about. Wanna give it a break and calm down a little?

 

[conduit]

Of course your political leanings don't interfere with your selfless drive for justice right?

2 weeks away and the country goes down the toilet. What would we do without people like you...

I was out of the country for 2 weeks. I came back and I saw voluminous posts of bullshit by you. I simply corrected a few of your bullshit posts.

I am not ranting or venting.
While I had hoped for justice... I new better than to expect it with this administration.

 

[jem]

the new king of douche on et freedy foolsight.

I thought zero knowledge was your background.

 

[jem]

watch out you are rapidly turning into a false content douche here too.

Of course your political leanings don't interfere with your selfless drive for justice right?

2 weeks away and the country goes down the toilet. What would we do without people like you...