Is the market random all the time?
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I would like to discuss averaging down
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Is the market random all the time?
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Disagree. It's the random element of the market that makes averaging at certain times a viable strategy. You can't just do it blindly, however. It has to be done strategically.
Ok- describe where you have done it strategically using a detailed real world example please.
I don't think so. Over time, the averaging costs would probably make quite a difference.Quote from Pension_Admin:
Here is a question for you, oldtime.
If you have a system that has an edge, does it matter if you use average down vs. random position-sizing?
And that really is the whole difference here. Some have an edge which makes averaging down not only useless but costly. Others have strategies which require averaging down.
So if I told you how I trade, you would scratch your head and say, "Well maybe. But the only way I can see that working would be to average down."
I say it is a bitch when you put it on and it takes off before you can get a full load on, but really, I can make very good money on one unit if it goes my way. For instance, the last three trades in four days did exactly that, and I started them with one unit and ended with one unit. 2 of them hit my target and the other one moved so fast and so strong I just took the profit.
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that's the first sign. You start seeing patterns in charts. It goes downhill from there. More money has been lost trading support and resistance than was ever lost averaging down.
Aside from adding and substracting to your positions what else do you use t basis you trades, any other indicators or fundamental analysis ?
Quote from oldtime:
I don't think so. Over time, the averaging costs would probably make quite a difference.
And that really is the whole difference here. Some have an edge which makes averaging down not only useless but costly. Others have strategies which require averaging down.
So if I told you how I trade, you would scratch your head and say, "Well maybe. But the only way I can see that working would be to average down."
I say it is a bitch when you put it on and it takes off before you can get a full load on, but really, I can make very good money on one unit if it goes my way. For instance, the last three trades in four days did exactly that, and I started them with one unit and ended with one unit. 2 of them hit my target and the other one moved so fast and so strong I just took the profit.
Just think of the profit you would generate if you actually had confidence in your entries to put a full position on.
you've passed judgement so far on the no mortgage guy,oldtimer,averaging as a trading style..that's just off the top of my head,..what stratosphere are you residing in,and why are you mingling with the peasants,are you an empirical worshipped being somewhereQuote from riffrafffpatrol:
Look - most of what oldtime says keeps him in the running for absurd hyperbole poster boy -- this latest post being no exception.