I Was Right - Rise In Crude Beginning Of The End

Quote from TraderZones:

Then do us a favor, and get lost.

Your life is so empty, that you had to come back 3 years later to brag about saying stupid things to people you don't know??

Did you sit around with a calendar and a crude chart, waiting for the chance to do this?


You guys are just sore cause you didnt see it coming. You are just plain dumb! Expert losers lol
 
Quote from Banff01:

You obviously have no idea about what happened. Do some reading before posting something ridiculous like this. I agree that the high oil prices had a negative effect on everything which probably can't even be properly quantified but the current crisis has been caused by a systemic fault in derivative risk estimation and bank overexposure to this risk. I'm happy that you made a ton of money but don't get too carried away with your economic theories.

Ask yourself a simple question...what caused the bank overexposure? In plain English - millions of loans with original rates of 1-2% during the honeymoon period. After the honeymoon period this became suddenly 5-6%. What was the reason they became 5-6%? The Fed put up interest rates to curb inflation. Why did inflation occur and rates increase so rapidly in 3 years? ...cause higher fuel and energy costs flowed through the economy igniting the inflation genie. If rates had of stayed low there would not have been anywhere near the amount of mortgage defaults that did eventually occur. It was the huge amount of defaults which pricked the housing bubble.

The problem the banks made is that they seriously underestimated the risk to mortgage holders should rates go higher, as they did, once these subprime loans matured.

I hope that explains what I mean when I say that the core underlying cause of this mess was the increase in crude an the flow on effect it had on inflation/rates and the subprime bubble.
 
Quote from chlawfirm:

You guys are just sore cause you didnt see it coming. You are just plain dumb! Expert losers lol

See what coming?
What did you short in June 2005?
 
high oil price weren't the cause of the market correction, it was excess speculation and overleverage market. or house built on cards and when all the players left the game. the market crash.

high oil prices was caused by speculation on leveraged positions. or market manipulation.

the market regulators are seriously going to make market manipulation illegal again.



Quote from chlawfirm:

You obviously didnt pass economics 101. Lehmann was a product of the slide. You dont need to be a genius to understand that higher oil prices will eventually work its way through the the economy - not with a bang but like a theif in the night. Before you begin pooh poohing my prediction, take a look at 2005 and now. Its only now that we have even begun to take gas alternatices seriously. Unfortunately I feel it is too late.

My facts were correct in june 05. I shorted and made a mint. You my friend have probably lost your home. Who is the real tard??
 
you know what, i'm surprised no hedge fund or broker or Investment banker isn't in jail for oil market manipulation.



Quote from oktiri:

The world was doing just fine with the rise of oil prices. worst case scenario, people were going to drive smaller cars, and a new industry ET, were to be born. Gas cost three times as much in Europe, it never caused a depression.
Lehman was the first domino. So before you five yourself credit, get your facts straight, tard.

You were totally wrong.


Nice to see you, Brandonf
 
Quote from chlawfirm:

I havent posted for some time. I dont want want to say "I told you so".

Whilst the sub prime housing bubble may have been the trigger to the this meltdown, there is no doubt that the rise in crude and in turn interest rates and inflation were the underlying cause.

Below is a list of my posts in 2005. The only way out of this mess is to let market forces take its natural progression. Pouring more money into the fire is like pouring more gas. Yes there will be alot of pain but in the end the world will evolve stronger. Goodluck to everyone.

chlawfirm


chlawfirm Registered: Jun 2005Posts: 35 06-17-05 06:58 PMDo the math. Core inflation will go through the roof. Fed will be forced to raise interest rates by 400. Market will capitulate. Dont say u werent warned. My humble opinion only. I have now shorted everything.


06-20-05 09:43 PMOccasionally a stock's price level/movement seems to, interact ? with the fibonacci number series 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89; seems both Gold and Crude Oil coincidentally or otherwise dance with the fibos.Crude Oil waves topped at the 34 and 55 areas . . . 89 to come ?chart: AG's EW labeling, Gann Box, BC. Attachment: co m ag.jpgThis has been downloaded 621 time(s).
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chlawfirm Registered: Jun 2005Posts: 35 06-20-05 10:48 PMIf your chart is correct its the end of civilisation as we know it!

chlawfirm Registered: Jun 2005Posts: 35 06-20-05 04:37 PMInterest rates zooming by the end of the year inflation hard to reign in thanks to crude prices. Meltdown is on the cards unless we can get crude under control which doesnt seem likely. My opinion only
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chlawfirm Registered: Jun 2005Posts: 35 06-16-05 06:49 PMSurely the way of the market will be determined by the price of crude. I dont care about data and numbers, if crude goes above $65/b and stays there for any real time we could be looking at Dow 5000 Nas 200. Hope I am wrong.
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Both housing and high oil prices where the cause and both came about through over-extended credit markets.
 
Quote from chlawfirm:

I havent posted for some time. I dont want want to say "I told you so".

Whilst the sub prime housing bubble may have been the trigger to the this meltdown, there is no doubt that the rise in crude and in turn interest rates and inflation were the underlying cause.

06-17-05 06:58 PMDo the math. Core inflation will go through the roof. Fed will be forced to raise interest rates by 400. Market will capitulate. Dont say u werent warned. My humble opinion only. I have now shorted everything.


chlawfirm Registered: Jun 2005Posts: 35 06-20-05 04:37 PMInterest rates zooming by the end of the year inflation hard to reign in thanks to crude prices. Meltdown is on the cards unless we can get crude under control which doesnt seem likely. My opinion only


chlawfirm Registered: Jun 2005Posts: 35 06-16-05 06:49 PMSurely the way of the market will be determined by the price of crude. I dont care about data and numbers, if crude goes above $65/b and stays there for any real time we could be looking at Dow 5000 Nas 200. Hope I am wrong.
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You're not here to tell us "you told us so," but you're quoting you're own posts?

Well, you're wrong, and I'm here to tell you so. You were "short everything" since 2005? Is that why you haven't posted in awhile? You were living in a cardboard box? Or, let me guess, you held those shorts for 3 1/2 years, right? Nice work, George Soros.

If crude stayed above $65 we are looking at Dow 5000 and Nas 200? Did you really type that crap in 2005? And now you're posting it again because you want a pat on the back? Go back to your cardboard box.

So, let me summarize. If crude goes above $65, the fed will raise interest rates by 400, inflation will go through the roof, the markets will capitulate and drop to Dow 5000 and Nas 200. And you were short everything while the market went straight up for almost 2 1/2 years. Are you currently accepting new clients? I want a piece of the action.
 
Quote from tradersboredom:

high oil price weren't the cause of the market correction, it was excess speculation and overleverage market. or house built on cards and when all the players left the game. the market crash.

high oil prices was caused by speculation on leveraged positions. or market manipulation.

the market regulators are seriously going to make market manipulation illegal again.

The problem that I see happening is that when this market turns around and things improve, crude will again shoot up and so continues the vicious circle. Inflation will again be the feds major concern. I can this boom / bust scenerio continuing indefinitely unless we can substitute our reliance on fossil fuels.
 
Quote from chlawfirm:

The problem that I see happening is that when this market turns around and things improve, crude will again shoot up and so continues the vicious circle. Inflation will again be the feds major concern. I can this boom / bust scenerio continuing indefinitely unless we can substitute our reliance on fossil fuels.



I hereby grant you The lifetime award for exceptional achievements in douchebaggery.

Go away, you stupid fuck.
 
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