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I answered your question. You don't have to be unsure anymore. Happy new year to you too.
I was charged a ridiculous overnight short fee
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You did indeed - and that was kind from you.
But why the passive aggressive, somehow patronising but certainly confrontational question at the end of your reply?
"Where did you got the impression that IB will liquidate without notification? Just a guess?"
It was a genuine - not a passive aggressive, patronizing, confrontational - question.
If your impression was based on a guess, I would expect to continue to receive notifications from IB and thus avoid forced buy-ins by anyone other than myself as have been my experience throughout the years.
However, if your impression was based on something concrete - the IB web page, an answer from IB chat, a new message from IB etc. - I would have had to consider the possibility of forced buy-ins without prior notifications contrary to my experience and would have had to follow up.
I've had an institutional account with IB for over 10 years, that's where I get my information from lol. You rarely have low float runners available. Pre-borrows are only useful if you have a crystal ball to borrow before a low float is running since they won't get filled either once inventory is gone. Just yesterday you had no shares of SAVA and couldn't fill shorts when it ran over 10. TZ and CP did have shares of SAVA available though and that's how it is the majority of the time in my experience.
I apologize for my ignorance, but what is CP? I assume TZ = TradeZero.
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That's interesting and perhaps you just got beat to shares as I just did a trade lookup for SAVA on Friday the 3rd and see a large number of trades flagged as short sales during the day on the name including a decent number over $10.
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FWIW, I did a bit more research on this. After confirming short sales that took place throughout the entire day from our clientele (including after hours), I see that our site shows availability as well both currently and historically. Perhaps if you wish to PM me your account # or username, I can ask support to track down why you did not see availability.
Historical Rates
Date Was Available Mean Rates Rebate / Fee Min Rates Rebate / Fee Max Rates Rebate / Fee
06-JAN-20 Yes -54.37% / 55.91% -54.37% / 55.91% -54.37% / 55.91%
03-JAN-20 Yes -56.49% / 58.03% -59.00% / 55.52% -53.98% / 60.55%
02-JAN-20 Yes -50.50% / 52.05% -59.00% / 43.55% -42.01% / 60.55%
01-JAN-20 Yes -46.50% / 48.04% -49.19% / 45.35% -43.81% / 50.73%
31-DEC-19 Yes -53.70% / 55.23% -63.58% / 45.35% -43.81% / 65.12%
30-DEC-19 Yes -47.89% / 49.43% -63.58% / 33.74% -32.20% / 65.12%
27-DEC-19 Yes -30.62% / 32.16% -32.20% / 30.57% -29.03% / 33.74%
26-DEC-19 Yes -23.00% / 24.54% -29.24% / 18.30% -16.76% / 30.78%
25-DEC-19 Yes -14.80% / 16.34% -16.76% / 14.39% -12.85% / 18.30%
And currently (the bump in shares after midnight is due to incoming over night availability updates):
Search Result
Name
CASSAVA SCIENCES INC
Number of Lenders with Inventory
3
Symbol @ Exchange
SAVA@NASDAQ
ISIN Code
XXXXXXXC107
Country
United States
Quantity Available
100'000
Current Rebate Rate*
-54.3745
Current Fee Rate**
55.9145
Time
Quantity/Shares Available
00:00 45'000
00:30 150'000
01:00 150'000
01:30 150'000
02:00 100'000
02:30 100'000
03:00 100'000
03:30 100'000
04:00 100'000
Historical Rates
Date Was Available Mean Rates Rebate / Fee Min Rates Rebate / Fee Max Rates Rebate / Fee
06-JAN-20 Yes -54.37% / 55.91% -54.37% / 55.91% -54.37% / 55.91%
03-JAN-20 Yes -56.49% / 58.03% -59.00% / 55.52% -53.98% / 60.55%
02-JAN-20 Yes -50.50% / 52.05% -59.00% / 43.55% -42.01% / 60.55%
01-JAN-20 Yes -46.50% / 48.04% -49.19% / 45.35% -43.81% / 50.73%
31-DEC-19 Yes -53.70% / 55.23% -63.58% / 45.35% -43.81% / 65.12%
30-DEC-19 Yes -47.89% / 49.43% -63.58% / 33.74% -32.20% / 65.12%
27-DEC-19 Yes -30.62% / 32.16% -32.20% / 30.57% -29.03% / 33.74%
26-DEC-19 Yes -23.00% / 24.54% -29.24% / 18.30% -16.76% / 30.78%
25-DEC-19 Yes -14.80% / 16.34% -16.76% / 14.39% -12.85% / 18.30%
And currently (the bump in shares after midnight is due to incoming over night availability updates):
Search Result
Name
CASSAVA SCIENCES INC
Number of Lenders with Inventory
3
Symbol @ Exchange
SAVA@NASDAQ
ISIN Code
XXXXXXXC107
Country
United States
Quantity Available
100'000
Current Rebate Rate*
-54.3745
Current Fee Rate**
55.9145
Time
Quantity/Shares Available
00:00 45'000
00:30 150'000
01:00 150'000
01:30 150'000
02:00 100'000
02:30 100'000
03:00 100'000
03:30 100'000
04:00 100'000