I want to take a course on how to trade es

Mtrader said:
Courses are only good to explain you the general things about trading, like contract specifications, order types, margins, open hours…... But all this you can find on internet for free.

All the rest they will not tell you. If they would have the knowledge necessary to trade consistently profitable, they would not sell it but trade it.

If they would start a course of 10 lessons with 25 people paying each $1,000, they would have to spent 10 evenings for $25,000 gross profit. This is average $2,500 a day, from which they still have to deduct expenses. A successful trader can make easily 5 times more. Why would he lose money in giving courses?

If I, an average profitable trader, would give this course I would lose money compared to my trading profits. I would never give these courses as it would prevent me from making at least $1,000 more every day in trading without leaving my house.

Next problem is that the edges that real profitable traders have, never get public and surely never appear in courses. What they teach you there are things that are proven as not profitable. If not everybody who followed these courses would be making money.

Do your own housework. If you first learn wrong things from these courses, and you want to become successful, you first will have to "unlearn" what you learned and is not working. Following courses will not help you, but will make your journey much more difficult.

You can compare these courses with the book "“Beating the machines”" from David Goodboy. The title gives you a false feeling that you should buy that book and you will be a millionaire soon. That’'s also the purpose if this misleading title: sell as much books as possible. Only David Goodboy can money from this book, because he will take your money. You will receive in return a disappointment.

On top of that David Goodboy has proven on Tipranks that he has very bad returns. From 2012 till today average -9% a year. So he really need idiots and noobs to buy his book. Would you buy a book from a trader with a track record of -9% a year? He even manages to make 7 losses in a row. Random trading or throwing darts would even be more profitable.
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Hey thanks for the info. But what about intraday TA. Are you guys telling me this is dead. I mean even if I hear on the internet its dead im still gunna research it myself. I watch the charts for a week and even its only a week I have been watching the markets my whole life and it seems to me there is clear short term patterns just by intuition. I may be wrong but im going with my gut.

Here is a course I found and it breaks down the probability of the patterns. I copied and pasted it from the website. And no im not talking up this guys trading program its just the most interesting stuff I found so far.

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Day Trading Education
The 7 Best Price Action Patterns Ranked by Reliability

In the world of technical analysis there are a lot of traders who talk about price action patterns but few actually discuss how accurate they are in the live market. There are a number of useful patterns we watch for here at Samurai Trading Academy and although we don't trade these patterns directly, they are very useful to understand the current structure of the market and quickly assess our trading opportunities.

Testing the Common Price Action Patterns
The statistics on the price action patterns below were accumulated through testing of 10 years of data and over 200,000 patterns. In all these cases the price action patterns were only included once they were considered to be complete, which usually means a full break of a support/resistance area or trendline. The requirements for a completed pattern are discussed below for each individual case.

7. Bull Flag Pattern (67.13% Success) and Bear Flag Pattern (67.72% Success)




The flag is a continuation pattern that can occur after a strong trending move. It consists of a strong bullish trending move followed by a rapid series of lower highs and lower lows for a bull flag, or a strong bearish trending move followed by a rapid series of higher lows and higher highs for a bear flag. These patterns are small hesitations in strong trends, so they are usually only composed of a small number of price bars (about 20). Longer and wider patterns are defined as channels (see below).

The flag pattern appears as a small rectangle that is usually tilted against the prevailing trend in price. The best flag patterns have two features: 1) a very strong run in price (near vertical) prior to the setting up of the flag and 2) a tight flag that occurs right on the upper (or lower) edge of that run. The higher and tighter (narrower) the pattern, the higher percentage that the pattern will break favourably in the prevailing trend direction.

This pattern is considered successful when it breaks the upper trendline in a bull flag (or the lower trendline in a bear flag) and then proceeds to cover the same distance as the prior trending move starting from the outer edge of the pattern. Note that most pattern projections are measured from the breakout point, but flags, pennants, and channel patterns are all measured from the outer edge of the pattern instead as shown by the red arrows in the chart examples.

6. Ascending Triangle Pattern (72.77%) and Descending Triangle Pattern (72.93%)




The triangle pattern usually occurs in trends and acts as a continuation pattern. It's defined by a bullish trending move followed by two or more equal highs and a series of higher lows for an ascending triangle pattern, and a bearish trending move followed by two or more equal lows with a series of lower highs for a descending triangle pattern.



The pattern is complete when price breaks above the horizontal resistance area in an ascending triangle, or below the horizontal support area in a descending triangle. The pattern is considered successful if price extends beyond the breakout point for at least the same distance as the pattern width (see red arrows).

5. Ascending Channel Pattern (73.03%) and Descending Channel Pattern (72.88%)




The channel price pattern is a fairly common sight in trending moves that have good volume and acts as a delayed continuation pattern. Note that the channel pattern is similar to the flag in that they both have periods of consolidation between parallel trendlines, but the channel pattern is generally wider and consists of many more bars which increases its strength and success rate.

The ascending channel pattern is defined by a bullish trending move followed by a series of lower highs and lower lows, that form parallel trendlines containing price. The descending channel pattern is defined by a bearish trending move followed by a series of higher lows and higher highs, that form parallel trendlines that contain price.



This pattern is complete when price breaks through the upper trendline in an ascending channel or below the lower trendline in a descending channel pattern. The pattern is considered successful when price has achieved a movement from the outer edge of the pattern equal to the distance of the initial trending move that started the channel pattern.

4. Double Top Pattern (75.01%) and Double Bottom Pattern (78.55%)




The double top/bottom is one of the most common reversal price patterns. The double top is defined by two nearly equal highs with some space between the touches, while a double bottom is created from two nearly equal lows. Generally, the wider the gap between touches the more powerful the pattern becomes.

The pattern is complete when price breaks below the swing low point created after the first high in a double top, or when price breaks above the swing high point created by the first low in a double bottom. The pattern is considered a success when price covers the same distance following the breakout as the distance from the double high to the recent swing low point in a double top, or the distance from the double low to the recent swing high in a double bottom (see red arrows).



This is actually the first of our patterns with a statistically significant difference between the bullish (double bottom) and bearish (double top) version. As we can see, the double bottom is a slightly more effective breakout pattern than the double top, reaching its target 78.55% of the time compared to 75.01%.

3. Triple Top Pattern (77.59%) and Triple Bottom Pattern (79.33%)




The triple top/bottom is another variation of reversal price patterns. The triple top is defined by three nearly equal highs with some space between the touches, while a triple bottom is created from three nearly equal lows. Generally, the wider the gap between touches the more powerful the pattern becomes.



The pattern is complete when price breaks below the swing low points created between the highs in a triple top, or when price breaks above the swing high points created between the lows in a triple bottom. The pattern is considered a success when price covers the same distance after the breakout as the distance from the triple high to the furthest swing low point in a triple top, or the distance from the triple low to furthest swing high in a triple bottom (see red arrows).

2. Bullish Rectangle Pattern (78.23%) and Bearish Rectangle Pattern (79.51%)




The rectangle price pattern is a continuation pattern that follows a trending move. It is very similar to the channel pattern, except that the pattern does not have a slope against the preceding trend which gives it a higher chance of successful continuation.

The rectangle pattern is defined by a strong trending move followed by two or more nearly equal tops and bottoms that create two parallel horizontal trendlines (support and resistance). The only difference between the bullish and bearish variations is that the bullish rectangle pattern starts after a bullish trending move, and the bearish rectangle pattern starts after a bearish trending move.



It's worth noting that these rectangle price patterns are essentially failed double and triple tops/bottoms. Because the swing points following the double and triple highs or lows don't break to confirm the patterns, those reversals are not confirmed. This is why it can be very dangerous to try to anticipate double and triple tops/bottoms, because often they don't fully complete and price will resume the prior trend.

The rectangle pattern is complete when price breaks the resistance line in a bullish rectangle, or when price breaks the support line in a bearish rectangle. The pattern is considered successful when price extends beyond the breakout point by the same distance as the width of the rectangle pattern.

1. Head and Shoulders Pattern (83.04%) and Inverted Head and Shoulders Pattern (83.44%)




The head and shoulders patterns are statistically the most accurate of the price action patterns, reaching their projected target almost 85% of the time. The regular head and shoulders pattern is defined by two swing highs (the shoulders) with a higher high (the head) between them. The inverted head and shoulders pattern has two swing lows with a lower low between them. The two outer swing highs/lows don't have to be at the same price, but the closer they are to the same area the stronger the pattern generally becomes.



The pattern is complete when price breaks through the "neckline" created by the two swing low points in a head and shoulders, and the two swing high points in an inverted head and shoulders. In the chart examples above this line is horizontal, but it can also be sloped as the swing points do not have to be exactly the same to have a completed pattern. These patterns are considered complete when price breaks out from the neckline and moves a distance equal to the distance from the neckline to the head of the pattern.

Dishonorable Mention: Bullish Pennant Pattern (54.87%) and Bearish Pennant Pattern (55.19%)




Although we've already covered the seven best price action patterns, I thought it would be useful to include one more pattern because of it's comparatively poor performance despite being commonly used. The pennant pattern is one that you often see right next to the bull and bear flag pattern in the textbooks, but rarely does anyone talk about its low success rate. While the flag itself isn't an exceptional pattern at just under a 70% success rate, the pennants come in well below that.



Like the flag, the pennant often occurs in high momentum markets after a strong trending move, but the tight price formation that occurs can lead to breakouts against the preceding trend almost as often as we get continuation. The slight difference in the price pattern formation between flags and pennants is an important distinction that can make a big difference in your trading results so it's well worth being aware of while watching the market develop during your trading day.
 
smallcapgrowth said:
...I watch the charts for a week and even its only a week I have been watching the markets my whole life and it seems to me there is clear short term patterns just by intuition. I may be wrong but im going with my gut.
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If you notice in all those patterns, all they are, are trend channel breaks. That's it. No need for all the other crazy definitions. The only exception is on the H&S, but those can be considered double-or-triple top-bottom bounces which are W/M patterns.

That's really all that stuff is.
 
I can't name a specific course, but rather than trying to find education a specific trading style, I think a more valuable way to start is to find a course (if such exists) that teaches the mechanics of how ES functions as well as the underlying exchange.

What I mean is, the course would teach you the following:
1) Exchanges:
1A) What is an order book
1B) How limit orders and market orders affect the order book
1C) What, in the simplest terms, causes a price to move up or down (ie a market order takes out different price levels of the order book to fill the order)
1D) Why the order book isn't all it may seem or why the DOM isn't what it may seem (how algos can add/remove quotes in response to orders and can effectively be hidden liquidity or that liquidity can be inaccessible because it's removed)
1E) Specific exchange details (in this case CME Globex) such as the queue priority as well as order types and flags2)

2) The underlying (in this case S&P 500 index):
2A) How is the S&P 500 index value calculated?
2B) What drives the price (think interest rates, dividends)
2C) What exactly is a futures contract and how does it differ from the real time index
2D) Application of 2C specifically to the ES

3) Options on futures
basically the same as 2, but as it applies to the options.

It seems people want to jump right in to this starting with the "how do I make money"? When what they really need to understand is that this is an entire field of study and you need to start by truly understanding what you're dealing with before you can understand how to conquer it. Perhaps you already know what I listed above, but I suspect if you did, you wouldn't see a need for a course as you could read about the many existing methods out there and pick one on your own.

Do you think an aspiring meteorologist will go to university for meteorology and they are only going to be taught about a specific weather model and told "that's it, go do meteorologist stuff"? No, they're going to start with the basics. What is temperature, humidity, pressure. What causes air to move from one region to another. Eventually they'll get to techniques of statistically modeling air movement and other effects. Finally they will have enough of an understanding weather that they could independently develop a crude model based on their inherent understanding of weather as a system.

They can use this understanding to find existing models and identify those models that happen to be applicable to exactly what they want to model (a particular region, a particular condition). They will then understand enough to know that while this particular model works really great for coastal areas, it actually isn't so good in Missouri. They will then be able to figure out what models work well in this particular place, but also with these recent weather events (hurricanes, unexpected weather patterns) and be able to select the particular model they believe will most accurately predict at this moment in time in this particular region and even improve upon that model.

Does a meteorologist try to find a model that best predicts weather across the entire globe for the last 50 years? No, they find the best way to model the exact region based on their best knowledge of the current state of weather and adapt models appropriately, but none of that wouldn't be possible if they went to school and were give a few models and said "yeah these work pretty well for this and that area".

Now lets say there was some hypothetical organization had $1T/yr that they're going to divide up and pay whoever most accurately predicts the weather each minute in each region. What do you think will happen? I would say some smart people would try to cash in on this. Over time the models would improve and people would try to specialize in particular regions or weather conditions they were able to model better than the rest and make money there. After a while it would become very specialized and very competitive. What I don't think they would do is give away or sell those models unless those models were so simple that anyone could come up with them (and subsequently probably aren't very good models). If their model is that good, why would they share it (or sell it) unless they were making more money selling their model than they were by using their model?

Perhaps I'm giving too much credit to meteorologists. ;) I don't actually know any, but it was the best model example I could think to use because I think people can sort of wrap their heads around it unlike many other types of fields where statistical models are used.

Then again, what do I know? I'm just a software developer.

Good luck.
 
How can u have fundemnetals intraday trading. I am not looking to swing. My prior knowledge just uses fundamentals for finding undervalued stocks to buy and hold with 20-30 percent tilt to smallcapvalue
 
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