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I Want the System to Collapse!
- Thread starter PAPA ROACH
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Quote from Landis82:
The credit markets say otherwise.
Not really,
States, municipalities & townships are having a harder time than ever getting debt funding while facing unprecedented deficit and gloom forecasts.
Small & mid businesses still have their credit lines cut off.
I'm sure we all know where the consumer credit stands.
Only interbank & large corporate credit markets are getting better, due to the endless government bailouts & handouts. The insiders club are essentially just sharing in their latest looting of the masses.
I don't see a collapse but a slow deterioration is well under way. This is similar to what Argentina went through not that long ago.
Quote from kxvid:
You might get your wish, but be careful what you wish for. How big of a collapse do you want? Anarchy, SHTF, TEOTWAWKI? Those will happen in your lifetime, mark my words. Hopefully you have your stuff together before then, otherwise you will be in deep.
Disagree.
The game is too good for the plutocracy. They will bleed the value out of the nation until clear cut signs of civil unrest, then they will introduce some kind of large scale war.
It will not b nuclear, too many unknowns.
That's beauty of Obama. Because he is our greatest of American experiments, the people will tolerate a lot more pain than usual.
The country will polarize as well. If we can be internally destabilized to the brink of civil war, then we will fall with ease, and the last of the great resisters to globalism will be recorded in our grandchildren's Kindles.
Quote from Landis82:
The crack is getting bigger?
How so, and please be specific.
The credit markets say otherwise.
I'm no "end of the world" scenario type of guy, but surely you see some long term problems, right?
I don't know how anyone wouldn't be concerned with the lack of fiscal responsibility that both politcal parties have shown.
I am of the belief that we can and will ultimately fix our debt problems, however the congressional track record has not shown any proof of the ability to do so.
I think it may take a quasi-politcal revolution on order to trigger some actual policy change.
Are you familiar with chaos theory, peak oil, Jevon's paradox? The world wont last too much longer as it is; most of modern life is unsustainable. The are past the stone, copper, bronze, and iron ages. We are living at the high of the oil age.Quote from ARealGannTrader:
Disagree.
The game is too good for the plutocracy. They will bleed the value out of the nation until clear cut signs of civil unrest, then they will introduce some kind of large scale war.
It will not b nuclear, too many unknowns.
That's beauty of Obama. Because he is our greatest of American experiments, the people will tolerate a lot more pain than usual.
The country will polarize as well. If we can be internally destabilized to the brink of civil war, then we will fall with ease, and the last of the great resisters to globalism will be recorded in our grandchildren's Kindles.
short version: we are doomed
Quote from kxvid:
We are living at the high of the oil age.
We have an estimated 9 times more recoverable oil formations to exploit still, peak oil is a myth for our lifetime. EASY oil peaked, but technology has made massive leaps in just the past couple of years. I wouldn't worry about oil being our doom.
Quote from kxvid:
Are you familiar with chaos theory, peak oil, Jevon's paradox? The world wont last too much longer as it is; most of modern life is unsustainable. The are past the stone, copper, bronze, and iron ages. We are living at the high of the oil age.
short version: we are doomed
Even if the slight chance that you are right.....it must really suck to live like you do, huh?
Are you in a constant state of depression?
Quote from PAPA ROACH:
After much study and thought, I as well as some of you I'm sure, have come to the conclusion we really cannot fix our troubles, only delay them further. Having said that, I would rather let this system collapse now, when my children are young and I am young enough to deal with it rather than wait until I am old and let them go through the hardships as adults. This is wanting the best for my kids, I'm sure some of you as parents would rather it be this way as well.
We keep putting duct tape on the crack in the dam, the crack is getting bigger and we are running out of tape. Let the debts collapse upon themselves, let the old world Rothschild slavery system, errr... banking system go the way of the Dodo. We won't miss it in 10 years.
I cannot tell you what the future will hold after a collapse, but I can tell you what it will look like if we don't hit the reset button soon.
I am in your camp, Papa Roach. These short-term bandaids will just delay the inevitable. I'm all for letting the house of cards totally crumble now as well. We would see major pain (probably 25 % unemployment), mass looting, people jumping off buildings, etc., BUT I think starting from zero, and building from the bottom, would be a long-term boon.
It will never happen - no one has the guts to call this kind of move. But, I do agree with you in this regard.