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Oh I didn't suggest you not post or that your not entitled to an opinion.

I just asked what bearing your opinion has on us (the poor bastards stuck with President Hussein) with you being a Canadian.

I don't recall seeing your answer to that.
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Despite the swamp that Bush left behind, you're luckier than you think with the leadership that you have.

As for what bearing my opinion has, that is for you to decide.
 
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As for what bearing my opinion has, that is for you to decide.
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Oh I already decided a long time ago.

Obviously it's none, zilch, zero, zippo, nada.

I just wanted to see what made you think it matters.

Don't forget to kiss you Obama statue today.

Hey you willing to swap leaders?
I'll make you a three for one deal.

:D
 
What is this, gang up on TDawg day or some shit?

We needed Ron Paul. We didn't get him...but between the two, I'd want Obama over McCain (and especially that dimwit Palin). That's not necessarily saying a whole lot though.

We are in a total clusterfuck situation right now, and we can't just sit around bitching and moaning. The gummint isn't going to help us.

We keep voting these dumbasses into office and then bitch about them the next 4-8 years...it's become the American way.

Can't wait to see how many incumbents get reelected to congress next time around. After all the shit people have been talking about them, it will be funny to see how many of the same people get voted right back into office.
 
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Trust me, I get it that we won't agree. It is easy to see what you are. Yes, I concur with what Mises and Rand wrote. Absolutely. Very bright people with great insights. But at least I have a belief set. Yours? So far you have not shown it, but experience tells me that if you do show it there will be not much there there. Now that is the cue for your next cute comeback! But I will come back and argue with you if you put some beliefs on the table other than the touchy platitudes I have seen so far.
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Quid pro quo. One platitude deserves another. Did you not get that I essentially regarded your earlier remarks as nothing but mind-numbing, gum-chewing, shopworn platitudes? Where you can just smugly take a shallow and extreme stance and assume that you are right? Did you not get that? It is this smugness and unwarranted certitude that I abhor, and you ooze the shit.

Economically, I adhere to Keynsian economics for the most part, but as it was originally prescribed and not as it was bastardized by those who conveniently played only one side of the equation for political expediency. I agree with the late John Kenneth Galbraith who viewed supply side economics as follows: "After feeding oats to the horses, one should not gaze too closely at what trickles down to the sparrows."

You asked about my beliefs? Those are my beliefs. Thank you for asking.
 
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Economically, I adhere to Keynsian economics for the most part, but as it was originally prescribed and not as it was bastardized by those who conveniently played only one side of the equation for political expediency. I agree with the late John Kenneth Galbraith who viewed supply side economics as follows: "After feeding oats to the horses, one should not gaze too closely at what trickles down to the sparrows."

You asked about my beliefs?
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Mises any day of the week over this dribble. Keynesian economics? John lost a job. Oh, I feel bad. Let's vote for politicians who will take money from Tim to get a job back for John. Ok. Sounds good. Group hug everyone!
 
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Thanks for the response. You raise some good points. But I would not be too quick to absolve Bush of 9/11. Remember that Richard Clarke said the outgoing Clinton administration was trying to impress upon the incoming Bush administration the gravity of the terrorist threat, whereby there was gathering intelligence that OBL was looking to harm American on US soil, possibly using aircraft. The way that the Bush administration waved off the dire warnings left Clarke outraged. They were essentially asleep at the switch and only started barking when OBL woke them up.
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Without getting off the topic of the thread it is hard to know the relative threat level that OBL was given in amongst all the other threats that must have been coming across the intelligence wire at the time. Compounding the confusion is the import that the Clinton administration assigned OBL, which doesn't seem to have differed appreciably from Bush.

The concern that this thread really highlights is that we are at risk of throwing the baby, in this case the free market system, out with the bathwater in our desperation to grasp at any solution to the economic malaise, a desperation that could easily be exploited by someone who is adept at convincing the American people that s/he has the answers and can stop the pain. This is the first time in my life (I am 40) that I see the economic and societal ground fertile for candidate with a command economy style plan to flourish within the next 5 election cycles.
 
Mvic, I understand your point, but I don't share your concern. I think your country has a fine, intelligent and thoughtful man in the White House who will prove to be a good leader. If I should be proven wrong, then I will admit it. But I don't think that will happen.
 
anarcho-capitalism is the ideal.

however, current reality, with the mixture of capitalism and socialism, pushes the forces of socialism to the forefront in an attempt to get back to the capitalistic structure. At this point, there really isnt any other choice if the status qou is to be maintained.


only time will tell the results of the process
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Mises any day of the week over this dribble. Keynesian economics? John lost a job. Oh, I feel bad. Let's vote for politicians who will take money from Tim to get a job back for John. Ok. Sounds good. Group hug everyone!
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Oh, one more belief I forgot to mention: I believe that your comments are vacuous and that you are a dolt. Thanks for reminding me.
 
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