I Want the Master Plan!

[Thunderdog]

Quote from Lucrum:

Context, Lucrum. My comment was to Mvic and not Covel.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Thunderdog:

Lucrum, if you don't want to exchange views with those who may oppose yours, then you really shouldn't come here. And is it challenging to type your posts while being wrapped in a flag? I can only imagine your resolve.

Did you just avoid the question?

You must be taking lessons from TrollZzzzz?

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Thunderdog:

Context, Lucrum. My comment was to Mvic and not Covel.

You left out my quote Dawg!
Meaning I don't know the CONTEXT of your post and therefore can't respond appropriately.

That's almost as bad as a grammatical error.

Take a deep breath and slow down.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from Trend Following:

Your kind has been seen for a long time. I have nothing against you personally, but your ideas, which are squishy at best, are designed to do nothing except appeal to emotion. "Life support" = appeal to emotion. Now that a few words from you negate Rand, I am sure you got a few more words to negate Mises too?

Note: Pardon me if I don't know various people's beliefs already...I am learning fast.

"Your kind." "Appeal to emotion." Is this a Rand refresher? Where you mimic her diatribes and pretend they're your own? As the rugged individualist that you are, of course. Quick, read the next line to find out what you think.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from Lucrum:

You left out my quote Dawg!
Meaning I don't know the CONTEXT of your post and therefore can't respond appropriately.

That's almost as bad as a grammatical error.

Take a deep breath and slow down.

No, I didn't. Your post merely contained two posts: Mine and Covel's, implying that Covel was answering my question. However, my question was posed to Mvic. So when I pressed "quote" on your post, it showed nothing. Rather indicative, wouldn't you say?

 

[Cesko]

Quote from Thunderdog:

I think you should step back into Rand's novels where you belong. They're waiting for you to demonize someone.

Actually there others doing demonizing:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D964UGBG0&show_article=1

And this:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-warming4-2009feb04,0,7454963.story

Let's just hand them money so the world doesn't end.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from Lucrum:

Did you just avoid the question?

No. I answered your question. If you don't wish to exchange views, then don't come here or at least don't post. Suggesting I should not post because I'm not American is vaguely preposterous. (I use the term "vaguely" to be polite.)

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Thunderdog:

No. I answered your question. If you don't wish to exchange views, then don't come here or at least don't post. Suggesting I should not post because I'm not American is vaguely preposterous. (I use the term "vaguely" to be polite.)

Oh I didn't suggest you not post or that your not entitled to an opinion.

I just asked what bearing your opinion has on us (the poor bastards stuck with President Hussein) with you being a Canadian.

I don't recall seeing your answer to that.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from Mvic:

No question Bush did an awful job but lets not forget that he had the dot com bust to contend with, then 9/11, and even Katrina. The way he chose to respond to these events left a lot to be desired, but I think to just say that it was all his fault is not being fair to the man who in all likleyhood was doing what he felt was best for the country, as misguided as he was (by the likes of Cheney et al).

I'm not advocating more of the same by any means, I just find it remarkable that today I can envisage a situation in the foreseeable future (not the past election of Obama) where people in the US would have a choice between a candidate that was pushing something akin to a chinese style 5 year plan and a more traditional free market laissez faire candidate.

Having said that, I do feel that tax cuts are part of the solution. Specifically the temporary elimination of the payroll tax for both employees and employers. Major tort reform too would be a cheap and highly stimulatory measure, as would single payer universal health care.

Thanks for the response. You raise some good points. But I would not be too quick to absolve Bush of 9/11. Remember that Richard Clarke said the outgoing Clinton administration was trying to impress upon the incoming Bush administration the gravity of the terrorist threat, whereby there was gathering intelligence that OBL was looking to harm Americans on US soil, possibly using aircraft. The way that the Bush administration waved off the dire warnings left Clarke outraged. They were essentially asleep at the switch and only started barking when OBL woke them up.

And the Bush administration handled the aftermath of Katrina about as well as they treated the impending OBL threat, about which they were amply warned, before it happened. That they diverted funds that were intended to enhance the levee just adds to the clarity.

 

[Trend Following]

Quote from Thunderdog:

"Your kind." "Appeal to emotion." Is this a Rand refresher? Where you mimic her diatribes and pretend they're your own? As the rugged individualist that you are, of course. Quick, read the next line to find out what you think.

Trust me, I get it that we won't agree. It is easy to see what you are. Yes, I concur with what Mises and Rand wrote. Absolutely. Very bright people with great insights. But at least I have a belief set. Yours? So far you have not shown it, but experience tells me that if you do show it there will be not much there there. Put some beliefs on the table other than the touchy platitudes I have seen so far.