I think TIE is along here...

Take a look at RTI and TIE lifetime charts. They can go a lot higher than 41 P/E. But good luck on your short, I think a pullback is overdue. Not so sure about end of the cycle.

Personally I left TIE alone almost a year ago once it got pretty well known on Wall Street. Made the mistake of touching it once a couple months after, that was a big mistake. I think options is the way to go with the stock, buy puts so at least you control your downside. Stock can drop 10-20% in a matter hours, it's not unstoppable. Hell of a play, I wish I knew enough to actually seriously invest in it when I first found out about it.
 
Would you care to explain your comment? Is the premium 10% of the underlying price?
Quote from joeyata1:

don't short this sell the naked calls as it gives you 10% to be wrong
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:

Take a look at RTI and TIE lifetime charts. They can go a lot higher than 41 P/E. But good luck on your short, I think a pullback is overdue. Not so sure about end of the cycle.

Personally I left TIE alone almost a year ago once it got pretty well known on Wall Street. Made the mistake of touching it once a couple months after, that was a big mistake. I think options is the way to go with the stock, buy puts so at least you control your downside. Stock can drop 10-20% in a matter hours, it's not unstoppable. Hell of a play, I wish I knew enough to actually seriously invest in it when I first found out about it.

Yes it will done through options only and this is not an end of cycle short just a reversion trade.
 
Quote from Restricted:

hahahaha just kidding. I will be shorting this in size over the next week and covering in august.

A cyclical trading at 41 time earnings, pfffft. Oh wait, its different this time. Right.

it's a cyclical driven of anothe industry that won't finish its cycle for another 2 years. Hope you plan on holding that long.
 
another comment after this mornings hit -
there are some big boys playing this one. there was a 700k block that sold at open, then a 260k buy.


yeah, good luck with that short! :)
 
Quote from krazykarl:

another comment after this mornings hit -
there are some big boys playing this one. there was a 700k block that sold at open, then a 260k buy.


yeah, good luck with that short! :)


Thanks for the kind words, its working out well so far.
 
i had to add something:

all commoditiy stocks are down today: aauk, pcu, ati, etc....

it's profit taking. have fun with that short.
 
Quote from Restricted:

hahahaha just kidding. I will be shorting this in size over the next week and covering in august.

A cyclical trading at 41 time earnings, pfffft. Oh wait, its different this time. Right.


dude, you just got 0wned.
 
Quote from Restricted:

Yeah dude im ruined. Oh whoa is me.

Check back with me in 4 months sonny.

4 months eh, that's a hella long time to have your cash tied up in one spot. :cool:
 
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