Quote from Trader KGB:
Holy Trollus Maximus! The ET entertainment continues!
Quote from NoDoji:
1. 5min time frame, rising 20EMA, place a buy stop 1 tick above the last new high, with a profit target equal to the stop loss. The size of the stop loss will be dependent on the instrument traded; do your own statistical research to determine the size stop that keeps you in most of the trades that successfully hit a profit target equal to the stop loss (it's a bit like a middle school math problem, meaning anyone of average intelligence should be able to figure this out for a given instrument).
2. 5min time frame, rising 20EMA, price breaks the last new high by more than just a few ticks, cross-check a 1min chart with a 1min 20EMA on it and when price pulls back to within a couple ticks of that 1min 20EMA without breaking a previous 1min swing low, place a limit order to buy a tick above the value of that 1min 20EMA, with a profit target equal to the stop loss. The size of the stop loss is determined as described above for your chosen instrument. It should not have to be very far below that 1min 20EMA. If price closes below the 1min 20EMA after an entry is triggered, and the stop is not hit, place a limit order to exit the trade break even (if possible). If price breaks a previous 1min swing low after an entry is triggered, placing a limit to exit break even is optional. As long as the 1min 20EMA isn't breached, the trade is still valid.
Quote from gravel lick:
I like the approach in the #2 example, but not #1. In the # 2 example, price breaks the last new high on the 5 minute, and then pulls back. You switch to a 1 min chart to monitor the pull back and take the trade when price reaches the rising 20 ema. But on the #1 example there is no mention of using the 1 min chart to monitor the pull back. So I don't quite understand it. In my experience price is notorious for pulling back after it breaks the last new high. I don't think I could place a buy stop a tick above the last new high on a 5 min chart because I would expect it to pull back. I am very new to all of this so I am not arguing, but more asking. I have seen you mention a couple of times about using a 1 min 20 ema on a 1 minute chart. Isn't a 20 ema on a 1 min chart by its very nature going to be a 1 min 20 ema? I mean, you can't put a 5 min 20 ema on a 1 min chart, right?
Quote from NoDoji:
Tactic #2 is my most favorable trading setup. Tactic #1 works well in instruments that have a lot of inertia, such as CL or strong momentum stocks, and it requires a strong trend, not a wide channeling trend that cuts through a 20EMA. I wouldn't use Tactic #1 with index futures, for the very reason you mention.
You can put a 5min 20EMA on a 1min chart; just add a 100EMA in the 1min time frame. The reason I made the distinction is because many of the traders I worked with had some confusion about that.
