I think all you guys looking for a crash...

SoyUnPerdedor said:
If the Fed stops buying bonds as it claims, won't bonds very quickly dip hugely in price, driving yields through the roof? And won't that crush the economy? I.E. the U.S. government has to start spending a ton more on interest going forward (although ratcheting it up as bonds are issued at the new much higher interest rates), and higher interest rates mean higher borrowing rates for private individuals crushing business growth and what not? And then will not the U.S. government pressure the Fed to start buying bonds again to keep rates down, continuing massive inflation?
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Correct, which is why they cannot raise rates without causing an economic collapse. Therefore, they want the economic collapse to be due to their inaction, not action and then can later claim "we didn't foresee this particular sequence of events".
 
nooby_mcnoob said:
Correct, which is why they cannot raise rates without causing an economic collapse. Therefore, they want the economic collapse to be due to their inaction, not action and then can later claim "we didn't foresee this particular sequence of events".
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God, you believe in a lot of crap. So what happened from 2015-2019 then ?
 
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SoyUnPerdedor said:
If the Fed stops buying bonds as it claims, won't bonds very quickly dip hugely in price, driving yields through the roof? And won't that crush the economy? I.E. the U.S. government has to start spending a ton more on interest going forward (although ratcheting it up as bonds are issued at the new much higher interest rates), and higher interest rates mean higher borrowing rates for private individuals crushing business growth and what not? And then will not the U.S. government pressure the Fed to start buying bonds again to keep rates down, continuing massive inflation?
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Uh, no. So much wrong with your theories here.
 
SoyUnPerdedor said:
If the Fed stops buying bonds as it claims, won't bonds very quickly dip hugely in price, driving yields through the roof? And won't that crush the economy? I.E. the U.S. government has to start spending a ton more on interest going forward (although ratcheting it up as bonds are issued at the new much higher interest rates), and higher interest rates mean higher borrowing rates for private individuals crushing business growth and what not? And then will not the U.S. government pressure the Fed to start buying bonds again to keep rates down, continuing massive inflation?
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i doubt real money borrowing will materially change if rates go up 1%. What will change is the allocation of stocks to bonds and the stock market will fall pretty hard.
 
vanzandt said:
That's not necessarily true. Wealth can be, and certainly is created.
At one end of the extreme take Amazon.
At the other end say you start a small company that makes previously unheard of widgets that for whatever reason a market has suddenly been created for. You're creating wealth.
At who's expense was Window's created? I suppose you could argue some dinosaur tech company that suffered back in the day, but a trillion dollars later? Uh-uh.
We would not be enjoying the standard of living we do if the creation of wealth was a zero sum game.
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You paid for the education and well being of those people. Your children unwittingly agreed to pay for the environmental damage. ALL todays' money is a promise from the future-ie someone else's expense
 
SoyUnPerdedor said:
missed the boat. What crash was going to happen already has. Green skies from here on out for several months!!!
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Market Crash?? Which market? Which Index?? very bizarre thread here.

There are only 4-5 stocks weighting and guiding the NASDAQ and they certainly aren't going to crash. Many of the other hyped NASDAQ stocks heavily traded in 2020 are down 60%. Dow certainly set up never to crash even though I would never invest in any of those 30. The Index committees sit all day, every day propping their stock placement and weights in order for the index never to crash.

However, the stocks with low weightings HAVE CRASHED ALREADY... maybe this was missed this but I can not see how? There has been harsh selling for months and months now.
Should we ask Cathie this question?...lol

The market looks far forward. As the masses asking about a crash...the traders are buying the cheap shares that have already crashed.

As the masses been fretting over a crash, fully designed indexes have stayed at ATH or been bought at every slight dip. Many just skip the index and buy the three or four and hold. Will Amazon crash, or Tesla, or apple, or google??

This is not Rocket science...its autonomous driving
 
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Pricechange said:
Market Crash?? Which market? Which Index?? very bizarre thread here.

There are only 4-5 stocks weighting and guiding the NASDAQ and they certainly aren't going to crash. Many of the other hyped NASDAQ stocks heavily traded in 2020 are down 60%. Dow certainly set up never to crash even though I would never invest in any of those 30. The Index committees sit all day, every day propping their stock placement and weights in order for the index never to crash.

However, the stocks with low weightings HAVE CRASHED ALREADY... maybe this was missed this but I can not see how? There has been harsh selling for months and months now.
Should we ask Cathie this question?...lol

The market looks far forward. As the masses asking about a crash...the traders are buying the cheap shares that have already crashed.

As the masses been fretting over a crash, fully designed indexes have stayed at ATH or been bought at every slight dip. Many just skip the index and buy the three or four and hold. Will Amazon crash, or Tesla, or apple, or google??

This is not Rocket science...its autonomous driving
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Can't argue with sound logic, that's 100% for sure.
 
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