In case if the stock doesn't go up a lot i.e. above (call strike + call price) and he can still make some money. It's an either or. Either long a call or sell a put but not both.
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I need help managing a bull put; I did not fully understand the trade.
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In case if the stock doesn't go up a lot i.e. above (call strike + call price) and he can still make some money. It's an either or. Either long a call or sell a put but not both.
And I wouldn't long the call at $11, maybe at 11.50 if I am doing a single. If the stock is going to pop, that 50 cents is not going to make much difference, might as well save some money. I would also do a spread to just recoup some of the purchase price.
Might be better off just buying this PBR 
The whole purpose of selling that spread is not to capitalize on a down move of that stock. It was to capitalize on an up move of that stock when the move wouldn't be that much. That's why what the OP did is called a bull put spread; it's to capitalize on a bull move. If the move is going to be a lot, the OP would've been best to just do a call debit spread or a call single but when a up move is not a lot i.e. less than the call price or spread cost, then you do bull put spread.
Even though there is potentially a down move, The OP would still need to be careful to ensure that the down move is going to take the underlying to sub $10 - spread premium before expiration otherwise the OP is getting double-fucked if the underlying gaps down and trends down after expiration.
On second thought, just to get some protection in case if the underlying goes into a down move next week, it might be best to buy a put or do a debit put spread instead of selling a put or buying a call cuz IF OP is going to be assigned, it's already got underlying with a delta 1 for the ride up, he doesn't need to buy another call sell a put in case if the volatility is not there but it would be good for him to get some downside protection with a put or a debit put spread to save some money so if there is any bad down move, OP is hedged with a put single and if the down move is not a lot, then the debit put spread would save some cost.
Might be better off just buying this PBR
He already is, with the assignment. The question is now how to protect that long underlying. See my post above. If the OP is not going to get assigned, then he can do a reverse iron condor to take advantage of a move with some hedge against some volatility crush.
You are the one who said sell a naked put.I was pointing out that he sold a spread to define his risk..
A call debit spread is no different than put credit spread..Box arbitrage..Buy call spread/sell put spread,no difference.(ignoring dividends)
Double Fucked???
Only if you sit there with your thumb up your ass on expiration
A call debit spread is no different than put credit spread..Box arbitrage..Buy call spread/sell put spread,no difference.(ignoring dividends)
Double Fucked???
Only if you sit there with your thumb up your ass on expiration