I LOVE taxes!!!

[mrvizion]

Quote from Josh009:

You ARE getting the shaft. We all are. The lower middle class has to be the absolute worst place to be. Too "rich" for the gov't to put food on your table, and too poor to do it yourself.

I live in a new apt building, and the rent is pretty high. Every monday morning when I leave for work, there's trash in the elevator and lobby, and interesting statements literally carved into the wall of the elevator. I wonder who's doing that! Is it the cop on 7? The retired music teacher on 12? Nope! It's the section 8 people!
Point is, if you have it handed to you, you won't value it. Why does the state allow the devaluation of my home so someone who doesn't want to work hard but wants to live like they do is able to? Following this logic, should we not pay workers less for working harder?

The upper 2% don't have to deal with the lower third. We do, the marginalized middle class. But as zdreg said, we're too busy what we have to do anything about it. Eventually, we'll be forced to either deal with the problem, or become part of it.

Get rid of the poor!!!
er, end poverty, i mean

You're a funny guy man make sure you stay in touch... Yeah I remember it best when I was trying to get Financial Aid for school and I wasn't able to get as much money as alot of other people because my parents had jobs... The funny thing was my father's job was going into the toilet at TRW and my mother worked as a teacher and still couldn't do much but live paycheck to paycheck from paying bills and taxes... Well fortunately I decided to rebel and I became a SPAM KING.... I probably still have some of you guys old email addresses...Mind you I'm strictly opt-in these days as a professional internet marketer... But I think I may have sent out at least 1 billion if not 2 billion emails the month of December 2003 right up until the 31st 11:59 P.M. .... Needless to say I had a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

 

[InvestorTerry]

I think the only reason I would love taxes is, it would mean I was making money.

 

[Josh009]

Quote from mrvizion:

You're a funny guy man make sure you stay in touch... Yeah I remember it best when I was trying to get Financial Aid for school and I wasn't able to get as much money as alot of other people because my parents had jobs... The funny thing was my father's job was going into the toilet at TRW and my mother worked as a teacher and still couldn't do much but live paycheck to paycheck from paying bills and taxes... Well fortunately I decided to rebel and I became a SPAM KING.... I probably still have some of you guys old email addresses...Mind you I'm strictly opt-in these days as a professional internet marketer... But I think I may have sent out at least 1 billion if not 2 billion emails the month of December 2003 right up until the 31st 11:59 P.M. .... Needless to say I had a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

:eek:
spam, eh? before i started trading i was in IT... i used to come up with new ways of blocking YOUR spam!
well, we all have to make a living (or go sec. 8)

 

[mrvizion]

Quote from Josh009:

:eek:
spam, eh? before i started trading i was in IT... i used to come up with new ways of blocking YOUR spam!
well, we all have to make a living (or go sec. 8)

Isn't that right...Hmmm so you use to be one of those nasty guys trying to stop me... I got news for your former IT team... As long as I've got a programmer that knows Inline ASM, C, and LISP working for me... There isn't anything you could do to stop me...
Of course like I said no more spam for me... And I haven't had a job since I was about 17 So I did way more than make a living my friend...

P.S. If you got some computer science knowledge you'd be far better off working for yourself if you picked up on any serious math about the markets... Of course its just my opinion... I just know there are alot better things to use my programmer for than spam now!

 

[jason_l]

Quote from Josh009:

Jason, 206/mo!?
I was paying $950 for Cobra, only for myself! Now I'm convinced that Cobra is a big scam.
And I agree with you completely about socalized medicine. I'd rather pay for private personally (when I am able to afford it again), but i believe there should be a minimum standard so poor children with a cut or scrape don't have to go to the emergency room to be treated (as someone stated previously).

before i got custody of my son, he was living with his mother. She made only about 20k or so a yr, so she got medicaid benefits for him. He saw a pediatrician regularly, no problems. She also paid only 60/month for FT day care, the government picked up the rest. I got custody when he was 3 months, and that same day care jumped to 850/ month!

My point is this: "poor" people DO have medical benefits: medicaid, etc. Then again, these programs are ran by the government, so they leave a lot to be desired.

 

[Hamlet]

Quote from areyoukidding?:

You have it all wrong, you must be a Republican. The Deep South is pretty poor, it is up to the Federal Govt to do massive projects like shoring up the Gulf Coast. The Army Core of Engineeres has a budget to do just that, but it has a low budget that gets cut every year. If the Federal Govt paid a few billion to make proper levies, then they wouldnt have to pay $200 billion now, incidently they have spent close to $300 Billion already in the war in Iraq, just to get rid of one guy. Talk about utter stupidity.

Why must I be a Republican? It's about economics and common sense, not political parties. It's about local people taking responsibility for their own problems.

You say the war in Iraq is utter stupidity. I'm glad you said that because it exposes the hypocrisy of your thoughts in a beautiful way. Consider the war in Iraq as analogous to having fixed the levies before a disaster occurs. In Iraq the Govt is doing it's job of engaging terrorists on foreign soil before they get here (case in point the NYC subway threat this week), and attempting to bring som estability to a region that is vital to the world. You call that stupidity, yet at the same time you expected the Govt to fix up your own backyard while the locals just sat there over the past 75 years just waiting for something to happen.

 

[bighog]

The USA is going the way of the Romans, Greeks, British Empire etc.

Those who think this is STILL the great society it once WAS are intellectually dishonest with themself. how can anyone not see the truth as it stares them in the face?

 

[Red_Ink_inc]

Quote from granville:

But I am happy to pay into a system that has offered me so much.

- Adam

If you love taxes so much, want to pay mine? Yeah, I didn't think so.

 

[Josh009]

Quote from Hamlet:

Why must I be a Republican? It's about economics and common sense, not political parties. It's about local people taking responsibility for their own problems.

You say the war in Iraq is utter stupidity. I'm glad you said that because it exposes the hypocrisy of your thoughts in a beautiful way. Consider the war in Iraq as analogous to having fixed the levies before a disaster occurs. In Iraq the Govt is doing it's job of engaging terrorists on foreign soil before they get here (case in point the NYC subway threat this week), and attempting to bring som estability to a region that is vital to the world. You call that stupidity, yet at the same time you expected the Govt to fix up your own backyard while the locals just sat there over the past 75 years just waiting for something to happen.

Didn't the terrorists engage us on our soil first?

Actually, I think it's really a chicken/egg question. 9/11, the first wtc bombing in '93, first gulf war, Ollie North...all of these may have caused or been caused by terrorism of some sort, in some part of the world, and it all came back to bite us in the ass.

And as for the war in Iraq, doesn't it look like we've lit the fuse to a civil war, and we're still standing in the middle of the battlefield? Isn't that reminiscent of the French involvement in the American Revolution? And after, what happened to the French?

 

[TorontoTrader2]

The USA is the #1 arms dealer and manufacturer the world and supplies many rogue regimes. Stop doing that and I guarantee that terrorist attacks in the USA will stop forever.
This goes waaaaaay back, it's all about the money.

Can anyone here name one country that the US brought "democracy" to?

How does bombing Iraq towns and their water/power plants, creating a crisis equal to in New Orleans, every other week, and rouding up people with no hope of a fair demorcatic trial, bring stability to the region?

Afgahanistan remains the #1 or #2 top drug producing country in the world...all under the watchful eye of the US...how's that war on drugs going?


In summary this is a war of the rich vs. the poor. Rich countries invading poor countries. The Rich - Bechtel, Halliburton, Carlyle etc - getting richer.
War Vertrans having their benefits cut. Poor getting poorer.


This cost is borne by the poor - Halliburton is not fronting a penny for this war...


"Iraq war now costing $6 billion a month: The paper by the Congressional Research Service underscores how the price tag has been gradually rising for the war in Iraq. A year ago, the Pentagon was calculating its average monthly costs in that conflict at below $5 billion — an amount the research service says has now grown close to $6 billion."