Quote from rodneywkr:
I currently have a plethora of "paper trading" data. However, cannot really get anyone to give me the time of day once I say it paper trading.
I do have a firm watching and they are saying without trades w/ real money its very very hard
There's a very good reason for this; although it seems totally counter-intuitive, trading real money produces different results than "paper trading" results.
I personally mentored some traders last year, providing them with a proven strategy that, in its purest "no-brainer" form, resulted in consistent net profitability.
In live trading, none achieved the results the system produces because they were unable to follow ALL the rules. The rules in their most basic "dumbass trader" form are simple:
1. A setup appears and you place a trigger order. This is an order that triggers a trade entry if price hits the level that triggers the order.
2. You place a fixed protective stop and a fixed profit target.
3. You remain in the trade until the stop or target is hit or a new setup appears in the opposite direction, in which case you stop out of the existing trade and reverse position at the same price (stop-and-reverse).
It took me months to get to the point where I could follow my own system when trading live. There were so many factors that (in my mind) prevented me from trading every setup and following the rules, among them:
- Pending news releases
- Price was already too low or too high to go lower or higher
- The news was bullish/bearish and price was moving opposite the news, therefore idiots were pushing price and no way was I going to become one of them
In my quest for the Holy Grail of trading I discerned many profitable systems, but what I discerned was tainted by survivor bias and in reality was capable of wiping out weeks or months of gains with a single trade. I had no cold, hard statistical data to back up these systems. In fact, my cold hard live trading data proved these were not consistently profitable systems for one reason or another.
Later after a great deal of study and practice, I had cold, hard statistical data to back up what eventually became my system of choice, yet struggled to fully put it into practice when trading live.
I taught my system to others who struggled (and still struggle) to put it into practice when trading live.
I had one trader trade my system with amazing success in a sim account and choke when he started trading it live.
This is why a proven live track record is so important to attracting investors.
If you have a system that works so well on paper, trade it live and prove that it works over time through a variety of market conditions. You then may be able to attract potential clients.