I have decided to put a significant amount of my money with AMP

This shit is pure entertainment..Loved the trailer.


"was a passive investor and barely knew about futures and just happened to be with ToS when the market crashed. I am a quick learn and got a hold of it trading 1 lot in March, then 3 lots, 5, 10, 20 etc. Now I trade 200ish every few hours on average and pay like $2k per day in commission.))"
 
It is inherently obvious AMP knows who the person is, with regard to identity. That is not the issue.

What concerns me is that someone with 2-3million is making a stink over being promised 800 per contracts for ES, and then being told later it is 6K per account.

The failure is on both sides.

A) AMP should have told him (and it is probably in the account paperwork somewhere) that their risk department can adjust your personal margins based on your trading history, amount of deposit and risk profile. Maybe the client did not read the fine print closely enough.

B) The client made a mountain out of a molehill here. Seriously. So what if they increased your margins to 6K per contract? Like, dude! The exchange minimum is 15K per contract! OK! Get over it! You got a discount anyways!

C) If I deposit 100 billion dollars with your firm, I want to be able to trade a million ES contracts per day.

There's a limit to the insanity...The line had to be drawn somewhere. Anyone with a clear mind knows it, and should know that at some point, the risk department is going to perk up and go..."Huh, wha? We're used to sleepy retail folks. We got someone now depositing HOW MUCH? (3 million. (Whoa, we need to review that, we're not used to that kind of deposit)).

Pinch of salt? Nah, more like a grasp of reality.

And P.S. @destriero called that shit. Amazing. He said that the OP would trade some number of contracts at 800, and the rest at 6K. Afterwards, AMP came right back with that same figure which the OP is complaining about. 6K per. WTF is dest, like a robot? How did he know that amount is what AMP would call for? Is dest Dan Culp? lol!


right.
No point getting angry over tigher margin requirement .
Because it will happen again and again.

I am used to 'YOU HAVE INSUFFICIENT MARGIN IN YOUR ACCOUNT ' error message.
I'd simply reduce trading quantity.
No point getting angry
 
By knowing the size of the house AMP is doing a great job here by not accepting those risky positions. This thread has been a very informational and I feel now way much more safe with the AMP.

I personally don't know any broker who will accept $400 or $500 margins per ES contract in 800 contract positions until they know you well ie. you have shown your trading style and ability to handle the risk. This is very understandable: They are protecting themselfs and their customer's businesses.

Yes there was not the fineprint in there but come on guys use your common sense!

I like AMP for many reasons. Of course they are not perfect (who is?) but they have been improving much during the years and I am sure this small "debate" will do it further.
 
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And P.S. @destriero called that shit. Amazing. He said that the OP would trade some number of contracts at 800, and the rest at 6K. Afterwards, AMP came right back with that same figure which the OP is complaining about. 6K per. WTF is dest, like a robot? How did he know that amount is what AMP would call for? Is dest Dan Culp? lol![/[/QUOTE]

I have noticed that too. They are in Cahoots. Or, just another rich asshole whining when they don't get their way.
 
We'll see. On the phone with them right now to rectify a serious issue. After hours of phone calls and guarantees that '$800 is $800 no matter what', I got an email before any trading (the second they received the money), saying that I will be at $6000 per contract.

This is obviously extremely dishonest and I will update and post a new thread when all is said and done, but holding off for now in case this is a mistake. Lets hope this is just an oversight.

In contact with them right now, we will see soon enough.
Yes, unfortunately, now there is a lot of deception everywhere. keep in touch, it will be interesting to know.
 
And P.S. @destriero called that shit. Amazing. He said that the OP would trade some number of contracts at 800, and the rest at 6K. Afterwards, AMP came right back with that same figure which the OP is complaining about. 6K per. WTF is dest, like a robot? How did he know that amount is what AMP would call for? Is dest Dan Culp? lol!

I have noticed that too. They are in Cahoots. Or, just another rich asshole whining when they don't get their way.[/QUOTE]


Dafuq are you on about?
 
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I have noticed that too. They are in Cahoots. Or, just another rich asshole whining when they don't get their way.


Dafuq are you on about?[/QUOTE]

if he's so rich he would've a seat at cme and pay pennies on commissions

life's not fair own it
 
Remember, AMP's segregated account is only 7 figures. You put another 7 figures in? Well!

I just came across this thread, missed it originally, interesting read.

As a new AMP account holder, your post had me a bit worried.

Looking at financial data for FCMs, AMP have $64 million in customer assets in segregated accounts.

If AMP only had a few million on deposit from customers like your post suggested i would wonder how they make a profit after all these years.

Net capital requirements seem to be $1million for AMP, and they have 5.6million. So 4.6 million excess capital.

https://www.cftc.gov/MarketReports/financialfcmdata/index.htm
 
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Looking at financial data for FCMs, AMP have $64 million in customer assets in segregated accounts...

I hadn't looked at the data in years. Last I saw it was 7 figures. Nice to read they went up to 8 figures. So their business model is working, and continues to. :-)
 
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