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In all fairness, that was probably the right thing to do following 9/11. But how many cases involving money laundering that are directly tied to terrorism did the Homelanders busted so far? None, as far as I recall. Better yet, how many terrorists have they apprehended? Not many. Who are the majority of those that got rounded up? Mostly Hispanics.

This is eerily similar to the way we conducted the wars for the last 7 years. It all started with Al Quaeda and Osama bin Laden, but we end up replacing a dictator and building nations, not to mention losing lives. Just what the hell is our priority?

Bush didn't know what the hell he was doing and, sorry to say, Obama ain't much wiser. Those two bozos are wasting money and lives on things that have no connection to 9/11. I say go after Osama bin Laden and get the fuck out of Afghanistan, for crying out loud!

Quote from Rabbitone:

Before I retired I spent 25 years in the financial industry. Today it is a nightmare compared to 10 years ago. Don’t blame IB - blame congress.

Right after 911 congress passed the PATRIOT Act and the Homeland Security Act that ---- up brokerages, banks and our “rights”. The U.S. government is petrified money will flow into these institutions using “money laundering” or offshore money movement practices from terrorists. Money that can be wired to and from a local branch of bank steps away from a persons home (no matter where home is say Algeria); money that a terrorist may use to harm U.S. citizens.

If you opened a brokerage account 10 years ago, then as long as they got the money and tax laws were met no one cared. Today you need to provide picture ids or passports and proof that you live at that residence with invoices. Then they do full credit checks to determine if all the other data matches.

IB does not care about the credit check. This is for the U.S. Government so that they can confirm who you say are. If you are not in a credit agency database you cannot open an account. All because of the PATROIT act needs to track every person on U.S. soil as a suspected terrorist – that means you and I!

Million $$ accounts are worse. Now it makes brokers sweat.They are scared that you may be a terrorist and the feds are going to jump in on them and do surveillance on this account for terrorist connections. Some brokers report every nickel that flows from these big accounts to U.S government agencies.

When I recently opened an IB account I did all the things above. Then I called and asked to talk to a supervisor about the paper work. I was surprised. The supervisor and I had an hour talk about this. He knew me from my days at First Chicago Bank. He confirmed everything I wrote above. Call IB and they will explain, maybe not as frank as I heard, but their hands are tied by the U.S. Government.
 
Hello schizo,

Here is some dull reading that explains in depth what I wrote in my post from a U.S. Gov website:

http://www.occ.treas.gov/moneylaundering2002.pdf

Below are quotes from these rules from the U.S. Government that are given to bankers and brokers. They should give you more depth about my last post. These are the things they are requiring banks and brokers to do to satisfy Uncle Sam:

“The USA PATRIOT Act addresses several aspects of due diligence at account opening.
• Verification of Identification - Prescribes minimum standards that financial institutions must follow to verify the identity of both foreign and domestic customers at account opening. Financial institutions must consult U.S. government-provided lists of known or suspected terrorists or terrorist organizations and keep records of the information used to verify each customer’s identity. “

“All U.S. persons and entities, including banks, federal branches and agencies, international banking facilities, and overseas branches, offices and subsidiaries of U.S. banks must comply with the laws and OFAC-issued regulations. In general, these regulations:
• Require blocking of accounts and other assets of specified countries, entities, and persons.
• Prohibit unlicensed trade and financial transactions with specified countries, entities, and persons.

“High-Risk Products and Services
Wire Transfer/International Correspondent Banking -Money launderers have become more creative in their use of wire transfer systems, particularly relating to correspondent bank accounts. Correspondent accounts are accounts banks maintain with each other to facilitate transactions for themselves and their customers. Although these accounts were developed and are used primarily for legitimate purposes, international correspondent bank accounts may pose increased risk of illicit activities.”

“Money Laundering Red Flags
Customers Who Provide Insufficient or Suspicious Information
• A customer uses unusual or suspicious identification documents that cannot be readily verified.
• A business is reluctant, when establishing a new account, to provide complete information about the nature and purpose of its business, anticipated account activity, prior banking relationships, names of its officers and directors, or information on its business location.
• A customer’s home/business telephone is disconnected.
• The customer’s background differs from that which would be expected based on his or her business activities.
• A customer makes frequent or large transactions and has no record of past or present employment experience. “ Like a Trader!!

Then the meat of it; many traders set up wire transfers. Here is what they monitor:
“Certain Funds Transfer Activities
• Wire transfer activity to/from a financial secrecy haven, or high-risk geographic location without an apparent business reason, or when it is inconsistent with the customer’s business or history.
• Many small, incoming wire transfers of funds received, or deposits made using checks and money orders. Almost immediately, all or most are wired to another city or country in a manner inconsistent with the customer’s business or history.
• Large incoming wire transfers on behalf of a foreign client with little or no explicit reason.
• Wire activity that is unexplained, repetitive, or shows unusual patterns.
• Payments or receipts with no apparent links to legitimate contracts, goods, or services.”


These definitions can fit any one of us. No one is excluded from Big Brothers eyes!!

Quote from schizo:

In all fairness, that was probably the right thing to do following 9/11. But how many cases involving money laundering that are directly tied to terrorism did the Homelanders busted so far? None, as far as I recall. Better yet, how many terrorists have they apprehended? Not many. Who are the majority of those that got rounded up? Mostly Hispanics.

This is eerily similar to the way we conducted the wars for the last 7 years. It all started with Al Quaeda and Osama bin Laden, but we end up replacing a dictator and building nations, not to mention losing lives. Just what the hell is our priority?

Bush didn't know what the hell he was doing and, sorry to say, Obama ain't much wiser. Those two bozos are wasting money and lives on things that have no connection to 9/11. I say go after Osama bin Laden and get the fuck out of Afghanistan, for crying out loud!
 
Quote from schizo:

In all fairness, that was probably the right thing to do following 9/11. But how many cases involving money laundering that are directly tied to terrorism did the Homelanders busted so far? None, as far as I recall. Better yet, how many terrorists have they apprehended? Not many. Who are the majority of those that got rounded up? Mostly Hispanics.

This is eerily similar to the way we conducted the wars for the last 7 years. It all started with Al Quaeda and Osama bin Laden, but we end up replacing a dictator and building nations, not to mention losing lives. Just what the hell is our priority?

Bush didn't know what the hell he was doing and, sorry to say, Obama ain't much wiser. Those two bozos are wasting money and lives on things that have no connection to 9/11. I say go after Osama bin Laden and get the fuck out of Afghanistan, for crying out loud!

Let this be the decade of yet more lies, and broken promises. :mad:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFIZwC6z4Kk&feature=related

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

Hermann Goering




http://thinkexist.com/quotes/hermann_goering/
 
Quote from maryp:

Absolutely. IB doesn't need immature 18 year olds. I'd be happy if they raised the age to 25. Too many kiddies trading these days. Trust me you don't know as much as us older traders do.


You could probably get a job in IB's customer service dept though.

Hahahaha! Wow, original poster is getting his face dragged in the mud by some of the posters here, harsh.
 
anyone know, how to change color on grid? for some reason on on of my accounts grid is always white(while on other it's black)

Thank you!
 

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Quote from kxvid:

They won't let me open an account since Im not 21 but 18. I have a many times their minimum deposit to put in and would be a great customer.

Likely has something to do with being "of age"... the age of majority where IB could enforce collecting a deficit from you should there be one. If you're a minor, you're not legally able to execute a contract.
 
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