Simple..Cuba don't have OIL.
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I escaped cuba to leave communism and now this!
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Quote from katrinastouch:
Let me add Canada to this list. We have higher tax here but it is ok, because we have universal health care. Everyone here will be treated rich or poor. That is the law, and it is a lie if they tell you otherwise.
Health care in Canada is rationed, meted out to people like dogs. That's why Canadians with money go get treatment in the US.
I see private clinics are opening up in Canada, even though they are illegal, the Canadian government knows a good thing is happening.
Hundreds of Canadian doctors are leaving each year for the US so they can practice medicine without limitations and without a guilty conscience.
Some Canadian towns offer lotteries for health. There is such a long waiting list in some towns to get to see a doctor. I won! I won! I get to see a doctor!
Whomever wants tax and paycheck supported free health care should move to Canada.
Quote from katrinastouch:
You do not know what you are talking about. You are brainwashed, we have the choice which doctor to go, Our prescriptions are cheaper (that is why lots of Americans cross the boarder to buy here). That is the reason we are voted one of top most livable Country in the World.
Everything I stated was fact and based on numerous studies and observations of systems like those in countries like Canada. How am I brainwashed? Because free markets have proven to be more efficient? The reason the US has expensive prescriptions is because of excessive government to begin with.
Nice try ... "Fight the Facts"
If you mean "foreign trained" doctors - you are right.
http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=b9c6ddf7-3b98-4b54-a2b3-4dc03ab9385c
If you mean Canadian citizen physicians ... well, not so much ...
"More doctors returning to Canada than leaving, first time in 30 years"
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2005/august/more_doctors_returni.php
If you mean "foreign trained" doctors - you are right.
http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=b9c6ddf7-3b98-4b54-a2b3-4dc03ab9385c
If you mean Canadian citizen physicians ... well, not so much ...
"More doctors returning to Canada than leaving, first time in 30 years"
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2005/august/more_doctors_returni.php
Quote from Mad_Alfred:
Nice try ... "Fight the Facts"
If you mean "foreign trained" doctors - you are right.
http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=b9c6ddf7-3b98-4b54-a2b3-4dc03ab9385c
If you mean Canadian citizen physicians ... well, not so much ...
"More doctors returning to Canada than leaving, first time in 30 years"
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2005/august/more_doctors_returni.php
Read the article completely, you just proved "Fight the facts" point.
âI guess weâre somewhat relieved to see thereâs a net increase in physicians coming into Canada, although it doesnât really help us in overall numbers,â lamented Collins-Nakai. âWe are more or less treading water in terms of our overall physician supply.â
"Collins-Nakai said hundreds more medical school entry positions are needed - and professors to replace those retiring to teach them - if Canada is to even approach self-sufficiency in achieving a physician workforce large enough to serve all Canadians in a timely fashion."
I am an American citizen, but I have spent a lot of time in Canada over the past five years.
I have witnessed my Canadian friends go to the doctor, without any issues ... have children, take their kids to the doctor without any issues, and even take their elderly parents to the doctor without any issues. Never any comments like "I wish our system was more like the U.S. ..."
This group represents almost the entire political spectrum in Canada - supporters of the NDP. the Conservative Party of Canada and the Liberal Party of Canada (I don't know any Bloc
Québécois supporters).
I have witnessed my Canadian friends go to the doctor, without any issues ... have children, take their kids to the doctor without any issues, and even take their elderly parents to the doctor without any issues. Never any comments like "I wish our system was more like the U.S. ..."
This group represents almost the entire political spectrum in Canada - supporters of the NDP. the Conservative Party of Canada and the Liberal Party of Canada (I don't know any Bloc
Québécois supporters).
the only cuban i enjoy is ricky ricardo.
the rest of ya take up space in florida.
the rest of ya take up space in florida.
I did read both of them.
Your point wasn't that Canada is imperfectly balanced in terms of quantity of doctors - your point was that Canadian doctors are still in the process of leaving Canada for the US - because the system is "so bad"
... A point that is out dated, at best ...
If they make it easier for foreign trained doctors - their problem will take a big step forward towards a solution.
I included both articles in an attempt to be "fair and balanced."
The problem reflected in the article re: the foreign trained physicians is consistent with - what I feel - is Canada's tendency to have "proctectionist" policies.
This tendency is bigger than the health care system issues. It touches a lot of things - including employment. That can be tweaked and ironed out pretty easily if there is the political will to get it done. 40 million or whatever uninsured in the U.S. is a much bigger "tweak."
Your point wasn't that Canada is imperfectly balanced in terms of quantity of doctors - your point was that Canadian doctors are still in the process of leaving Canada for the US - because the system is "so bad"
... A point that is out dated, at best ...
If they make it easier for foreign trained doctors - their problem will take a big step forward towards a solution.
I included both articles in an attempt to be "fair and balanced."
The problem reflected in the article re: the foreign trained physicians is consistent with - what I feel - is Canada's tendency to have "proctectionist" policies.
This tendency is bigger than the health care system issues. It touches a lot of things - including employment. That can be tweaked and ironed out pretty easily if there is the political will to get it done. 40 million or whatever uninsured in the U.S. is a much bigger "tweak."
RATIONED Have you ever been in Canadian Hospitals? I happen to work in the Emergency Room as a Nurse, so I know what I am talking about. There is no waiting list in any town to see doctors. And that is a fact.Quote from FightTheFuture:
Health care in Canada is rationed, meted out to people like dogs. That's why Canadians with money go get treatment in the US.
I see private clinics are opening up in Canada, even though they are illegal, the Canadian government knows a good thing is happening.
Hundreds of Canadian doctors are leaving each year for the US so they can practice medicine without limitations and without a guilty conscience.
Some Canadian towns offer lotteries for health. There is such a long waiting list in some towns to get to see a doctor. I won! I won! I get to see a doctor!
Whomever wants tax and paycheck supported free health care should move to Canada.