I don't always build it myself...

[Ricter]

Quote from Daxtrader:

So because someone else created the language, knowledge, tools, and processes that I use today, I owe something to the...state?

OOOoooookay.


Things are created for mutual benefit. If I paid for an Ipad, I don't owe Steve Jobs anything if I create music with it.

And to think that we need government to create things for us otherwise they wouldn't exist just shows you want your ass wiped for the rest of your life.

Obama's statement clearly refers to infrastructure.

 

[Spike Trader]

Quote from jem:



I was hoping Obama would build it for me,
since I could not build it myself.

Jem . . . you do know that this type of talk is all the ammunition Stu needs , right.

 

[Max E.]

 

[Mav88]

Obama's statement clearly refers to infrastructure.

Really? His exact words were: "If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.."

Here we go again, instead of question the religion itself, torture it into something acceptable. Obama's statement was obviously MUCH broader than that, but first let's say it was just infrastructure. Roads etc. are available to everyone, so why the need to bring it up? We all want roads and power grids but whenever anybody does something extraordinary do we scold them to pay even more taxes than what they already have and give thanks to the power grid? That's stupid, we give the gold medal to Michael Phelps alone, and he may thank his coaches and parents, but we never insist that he thank government for the swimming pools.

So why the attitude? after all support for roads and the internet are pretty solid. 3 reasons: the liberal communist religion is founded on strong egalitarianism and Obama is regular at that church. Secondly the sleight of hand is that things like medicaid will be thrown into the pot along with the internet as necessary for achievment to justify establishing the socialist caliphate. Third Obama himself is a lazy pothead who had doors open because of affirmative action. Of course he believes that is how people get ahead, he simply cannot fathom that a person all by themselves could work really hard and do something special, or he hates them for it.

I bet he had these thoughts while blowing a pot smoke ring in the back room with a bead curtain door:

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

Clearly Obama's teacher was the likes of Bill Ayers, bunch of leftist BS. ARPA didn't invent the internet so that people could make money, they built it for themselves and the DoD. The original packet switched network would not even be useful today. Am I to believe that nobody would have ever thought to network computers? Does Obama understand that that ARPA (now DARPA) and government contract out for such things?

"there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there" - Obama isn't one of them. Meaningless platitude, intended again to bring everyone to the same level of importance and justify socialism.

"The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

One phrase dedicated to individual initiative and all the rest to the magic of government teamwork. Is there any doubt about where this man stands philsophically? He thinks most ALL accomplishment is due to collaboration/teamwork coordinated by a government god. Simple tasks like fighting fires are better that way since firemen don't have to be extraordinary people. Creative endeavors and economic prosperity are almost never done that way or Marx would have been correct. The internet was built on contract to a very small group of entrepeneural physicists, there wasn't some magical national collective that made it possible.

What about when a team is doing remarkable things? I like the NE Patriots and the way the play as a team, but there are clearly individual talents and effgorts that make it all possible and it starts with the leaders. Worth noting- are they all paid the same? can people be kicked off the team? so much for equality of economic outcomes since discipline and competition are necessary ingredients for success of any team. That part is always left out of any socialist discussion. We have no national discipline, competition is a bad word to the left, and we have a shitty coach in the white house.

"So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the G.I. Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together."

In what together? I really really hate that religious platitude, what is 'this'? ...and if we are on one giant government team, where are the coaches making people perform? why do the nonperformers demand money?

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Mav88:

Really? His exact words were: "If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.."

Two can play this game. His exact words were, "...made that happen".

 

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[Scataphagos]

And yet... the polls show the election currently running a "dead heat".

So.... who is it exactly that is voting for Odumbo?

PARASITIC TIT SUCKERS, LEACHES, AND LAYABOUTS who want the Odumbo Administration to give them "something for nothing".

Disgusting!

 

[Mav88]

Two can play this game. His exact words were, "...made that happen".

what game Ricter? I said assuming you were correct that he is talking about infrastructure, and I doubt it, then again so what? Do we ask anyone who is successful to give thanks to infrastructure available to all? You know people were creating things long before roads and liberals came along.

 

[ChkitOut]

Bottom line: anytime obama is off the telepromter he is a complete disaster. Very telling, and disturbing...

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Mav88:

what game Ricter? I said assuming you were correct that he is talking about infrastructure, and I doubt it,

Lol, of course you do.