"I didn't think the sequester would ever really kick in"

[Max E.]

Quote from mrbill:

Too bad you're giving up on expanding your mindset to accept other ideas than those fed by biased Fox, Rush, Rove....

Dont listen to either of them, i dont know how i could make it any clearer that i think republican POLItICIANS are just as bad as democrats, cause they all feed at the same trough.... I prefer listening to MSNBC even though i disagree with it all cause im trying to understand how they come to illogical big government solutions.....


My beef with liberals is over the same big government ideology that all politicians seem to share, im not dumb enough to believe that very many of the politicians are really that much different.....

You could put Bush and Obama side by side and most people would not know the difference based on what they both did, yet guys like yourself think that its only one party thats the problem of the incompetent government...... And you love Obama for some reason even though he is just as big of a dumbass as Bush was, if not worse.....

 

[mrbill]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

Dont listen to either of them, i dont know how i could make it any clearer that i think republican POLItICIANS are just as bad as democrats, cause they all feed at the same trough.... I prefer listening to MSNBC even though i disagree with it all cause im trying to understand how they come to illogical big government solutions.....


My beef with liberals is over the same big government ideology that all politicians seem to share, im not dumb enough to believe that very many of the politicians are really that much different.....

You could put Bush and Obama side by side and most people would not know the difference based on what they both did, yet guys like yourself think that its only one party thats the problem of the incompetent government...... And you love Obama for some reason even though he is just as big of a dumbass as Bush was, if not worse.....

Decent points Max. I have to agree with you on much of what you say, and I apologize for being a dick head with my personal comments.

It's the hatred of Obama that I really dislike. Many of us hated the Bush wars, but not the man, he was a nice enough guy. The fool birthers, muslim haters, and socialist name callers are just so damn stupid that it makes my skin crawl.

We'll see what Obama does in the next 4 years. Take it from there.

 

[Eight]

It's like fricking kindergarten. I never think that people are such dimwits but I'm starting to get it now. We have to get down on the grammar school level and explain things to these touchy-feelies on the left: Actually, government spending slows recovery no matter how many jobs it creates. All government spending comes from the taxes a government can take in. Private sector employers look at the tax horizon and adjust accordingly. That means they then create less jobs as a result of the public sector creating jobs. There is the illusion that public sector spending is good and creating jobs only when the public sector is borrowing from future generations. Those future generations aren't going to have a thing. A baby born today owes half a million in taxes for unfunded liabilities like pensions and shit. That baby is expected to work it's entire lifetime paying for pensions.

The current situation is that the Public Sector can't make the minimum payments on it's credit cards without borrowing. Said credit cards don't actually exist, it's not really Visa or Master Card, I'm just saying that the public sector is borrowing ever more money because that's what happens when you borrow to make payments, you then actually owe more money even though you have made a payment.

Only politicians like Keynsian economics. It's never proven to work at all, same goes for bailouts. The US of A had massive bailouts in the '30's and was the last economy to recover! We had a depression in 1923, did no bailout at all and the recovery was very quick.

I could go on but I'll just get called a racist homophobe or something..

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Eight:

It's like fricking kindergarten. I never think that people are such dimwits but I'm starting to get it now. We have to get down on the grammar school level and explain things to these touchy-feelies on the left: Actually, government spending slows recovery no matter how many jobs it creates.

The data says the exact opposite. State government spending is sharply lower, in fact this recession sets a record, are state economies recovering faster as a result? Estimates are that the hemorrhaging of state and local employees these past years has subtracted 1.5% from current GDP. According to you, GDP should be above pre-crisis trend.

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from Ricter:

The data says the exact opposite. State government spending is sharply lower, in fact this recession sets a record, are state economies recovering faster as a result? Estimates are that the hemorrhaging of state and local employees these past years has subtracted 1.5% from current GDP. According to you, GDP should be above pre-crisis trend.

The data either says or measures no such thing.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Eight:

It's like fricking kindergarten. I never think that people are such dimwits but I'm starting to get it now. We have to get down on the grammar school level and explain things to these touchy-feelies on the left: Actually, government spending slows recovery no matter how many jobs it creates. All government spending comes from the taxes a government can take in. Private sector employers look at the tax horizon and adjust accordingly. That means they then create less jobs as a result of the public sector creating jobs. There is the illusion that public sector spending is good and creating jobs only when the public sector is borrowing from future generations. Those future generations aren't going to have a thing. A baby born today owes half a million in taxes for unfunded liabilities like pensions and shit. That baby is expected to work it's entire lifetime paying for pensions.

The current situation is that the Public Sector can't make the minimum payments on it's credit cards without borrowing. Said credit cards don't actually exist, it's not really Visa or Master Card, I'm just saying that the public sector is borrowing ever more money because that's what happens when you borrow to make payments, you then actually owe more money even though you have made a payment.

Only politicians like Keynsian economics. It's never proven to work at all, same goes for bailouts. The US of A had massive bailouts in the '30's and was the last economy to recover! We had a depression in 1923, did no bailout at all and the recovery was very quick.

I could go on but I'll just get called a racist homophobe or something..

+ 15.9 Trillion and counting...

 

[Max E.]

Quote from mrbill:



It's the hatred of Obama that I really dislike. Many of us hated the Bush wars, but not the man, he was a nice enough guy.

You honestly dont believe the same level of vitriol was directed at Bush?

Lets see, his car got egged on inauguration
They made a movie depicting his assassination while he was president
He got shoes thrown at him in Iraq
Liberals burned his effigy at rallies
The media relentlessly mocked him
And to top it all off a year after he was gone some jackoff decided to throw a model of his head on a pike for some scene in the series Game of thrones

Obama has been treated with kiddies gloves so far when compared to Bush.
(not that Bush didnt deserve it)

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

You honestly dont believe the same level of vitriol was directed at Bush?

Lets see, his car got egged on inauguration
They made a movie depicting his assassination while he was president
He got shoes thrown at him in Iraq
Liberals burned his effigy at rallies
The media relentlessly mocked him
And to top it all off a year after he was gone some jackoff decided to throw a model of his head on a pike for some scene in the series Game of thrones

Obama has been treated with kiddies gloves so far when compared to Bush.
(not that Bush didnt deserve it)

Agreed.

And I don't hate Bush as much as some. He took the fight to Al Qaeda, after all.

 

[MarketMasher]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

I have one more vote to cast against obama, and either way that goes, im assuming i will be so frustrated that i will never vote again.....

That's a sad f-n' thought....

But unfortunately, probably true...

Because just as Obama didn't do any of the wonderful things he promised...

Nobody believes Mitt "Obamney Care" will either....

 

[Ricter]

Quote from MarketMasher:

That's a sad f-n' thought....

But unfortunately, probably true...

Because just as Obama didn't do any of the wonderful things he promised...

Nobody believes Mitt "Obamney Care" will either....

Max's dilemma is that if he quits "too liberal" America, he can't go home to Canada which, even though currently under conservative governance, is still left of America.