I Ching

[Indie Cator]

Aphie,

You are sad sad sad. How on earth can you pour scorn on such wisdom as eastern philosophy when you have no experience of its capability???? I would have thought that as a beginning trader you'd keep an open mind for anything that can help you.

As much as learning the skills and techniques, becoming a good trader is all about removing the obstacles in yourself that make you a bad one - overcoming fear, greed, the mental fog that makes you fuck up. Eastern philosophy is all about mastering yourself - as you become better and better at that, you become a better and better trader.

It may seem like windy mumbo jumbo psychobabble to you, but in fact it is practical wisdom for creating $$$.

Wake up kiddo.



Indie

 

[capitalMan]

I-Ching is basically a bunch of mathematical relationships..

the Chinese has been using it to PREDICT the future for a few

millieum..way b4 Jesus Christ was born..

and its lastest application has of cuz been the

Asian stock market ...with distratous results..

it's just something like Astrology ..

 

[profitseer]

Anyway, I like these psycho threads because the same issues keep coming up over and over again, and you can go back and add to them whenever you have a new thought.

I just started this thread for people to talk about the I Ching, and how they have ever used it and what worked and where they messed up.

Like for instance, I asked it about a system I'm working on, and it said, System Sshmystem, yeah it's ok, but you need to get some other more important matters in your life fixed up. And then it gave me some direction on how to clear up the other matters.

 

[Safesteps]

The I Ching works very accurately if you really learn to use it, but if you just play around with it with a one page instructiuons, then is pretty useless.

I have used the I CHing with great advantage after I really studied for a while how to use it and read it, it works. I also got my Toki-Moai a while ago and between the Toki-Moai and the I Ching, using both resources wisely, you can turn almost all in your favor. Believe if you want your loss if you don't

 

[renhaitx]

Hello Safesteps,
I have ordered the Toki-Moai several days ago...I was referred by one of the people I know, she told me that Toki-Moai will help my current situation.....Company has announced outsourcing last week...

Can I ask you how to meditate before I stamp the Toki-Moai, for example, Do I need to have a very clear picture what I want before stamp the Toki-Moai?

Can I just meditate something like general not specific before stamp it on anywhere?

 

[Safesteps]

Never heard about meditating on it...

 

[Safesteps]

Got your mail to my box, the best is if you get an I Ching book, in Chinese would be Yi Jing I think

 

[Darkside]

Quote from aphexcoil:

No offense to any psychological gurus in here, but I have to chime in for a moment.

Now that I know exactly what kind of emotions I experience when trading futures, I can safely say that this, "feel your inner-self, project outwards, bond with the one, combine with the UNIverse" horseshit does nothing for trading.

The best place for this sort of crap is in a few good sex books that teach you how to maybe extend an orgasm for a few seconds -- but otherwise it is just a downward spiral of forever grasping for something else to be that rope that keeps you from drowning.
EDIT

EXACTLY.


Trading is war in a metaphoric sense (Sorry but those who have never actually been to war where you can actually fucking die do not get the glory of calling what they do on a computer screen "war") . You can either get it done or not get it done. Period. Maybe it was my time in the military or whatever but seriously, sometimes you just have to have guts and do what you're scared to do.

Kevin Haggerty said something along those lines somewhere too i think.

 

[renhaitx]

Hi SafeSteps,
I got my toki-moai. I only have certain places I can stamp them. I can't stamp to the kitchen cabinet cause they are oil-painted, the stamp can never be 100% dry and smug free on oil_based stuff.

So what is the best way to stamp them? I have asked the site but no reply, I guess like it said 'all up to me' now.

 

[arealpissedgoy]

Quote from aphexcoil:



Just learn how to trade and shut the f*** up about the psychobabble.

Good trading *IS* all about "psychobabble".

"Damn....that's the 3rd drawdown in a row, should I turn off the system for a while....maybe its run is over...."

or

"I know I should take this signal......but...___...says he doesn't like it here, he's been doing very well lately too....."


get the point?

If not, try re-reading after several more years.

Personally I find Sun Tzu's "The Art Of War" most applicable to trading than any other text.