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I can't program...what platform should I use.
- Thread starter Moptop
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Nope. He wrote that he does not know how to program. Hence, I assume he might be willing to learn it. If not, he should just forget algotrading. Because algotrading with drag and drop tools or silly premade tools is doomed from the start.
That's why elite softwares like Tradestation don't offer drag and drop, you can do 100 times more with TS Easy Language coding .. Its has most complete library of startgey words build in for you already, if you don't have time or can't learn a real programming language.
OP here, I'm still chugging along with Trade Navigator, but still looking for something better. I'm slowly reading "Trading Evolved" which was mentioned above and is about Python. I'm also considering Multicharts at this point.
Stick to Python, or don't.
Python is the way to go. However it is slower and more cumbersome than to buy some snake oil product. So just decide; do you want to make money on automatic trading or do you want to waste your money on a shady product after the other?
Because to learn to program and to develop a altos that make money take time. Believe me, I know. I have spent pretty much all my spare time since 2014 doing exactly that. However, if you keep on still looking at other junk, you will never make it. Then it is better to just forget Python and go all in in every new shady product that comes along
MopTop, go to www.optionalpha.com. They are in beta but are about to release drag-n-drop flowchart approach. I think that is what you seek. As others have said, what starts as "easy" hits limits. So, what you want to automate is really the key question.
The next step up is TradeStation with EasyLanguage. It is sort of natural language coding. Huge community. Very mature platform. Tight integration with the platform.
Then the next step up is Python. Yes, it is coding (or actually scripting). Certainly, you can do things (maybe almost anything) in Python that can't be done in EasyLanguage but depending on what you want to automate, maybe that doesn't matter.
In my opinion, for a non-coder, the step between EL and python is a big one. Do you have a example of the type of trade (and product) that you have in mind?
The next step up is TradeStation with EasyLanguage. It is sort of natural language coding. Huge community. Very mature platform. Tight integration with the platform.
Then the next step up is Python. Yes, it is coding (or actually scripting). Certainly, you can do things (maybe almost anything) in Python that can't be done in EasyLanguage but depending on what you want to automate, maybe that doesn't matter.
In my opinion, for a non-coder, the step between EL and python is a big one. Do you have a example of the type of trade (and product) that you have in mind?
Yeah, I agree. Most people struggle to code their robots properly and the info available online isn’t always enough to begin, except for specific sites.Stick to Python, or don't.
Python is the way to go. However it is slower and more cumbersome than to buy some snake oil product. So just decide; do you want to make money on automatic trading or do you want to waste your money on a shady product after the other?
Because to learn to program and to develop a altos that make money take time. Believe me, I know. I have spent pretty much all my spare time since 2014 doing exactly that. However, if you keep on still looking at other junk, you will never make it. Then it is better to just forget Python and go all in in every new shady product that comes along