I Am Voting For Trump

You mean his investors and other stakeholders: the people who trusted him. And he did it repeatedly. And this is the guy you're defending here? I see you aspire to high ideals.

Chapter 11 is nothing more than a tool. Not surprised Harry Hindsight doesn't "get it".

But to those uninitiated in bankruptcy laws, four instances of corporate bankruptcy in a row can seem staggering. “To the ordinary person in the street, it may seem surprising, but certainly not to me,” said Reed Smith partner Michael Venditto, who has represented clients in high profile Chapter 11 cases, including bankrupt airline TWA. “Chapter 11 is how you reshape and restructure a company that has problems. It doesn’t indicate anything nefarious or even bad management.”

More important, said Venditto, are the repercussions Chapter 11 might have for creditors versus, say, liquidation. “You can have a visceral reaction to the fact that this company has gone through Chapter 11 multiple times, but the bondholders look at it and the alternatives are much, much worse. What is an empty casino sitting on the Atlantic City boardwalk worth? If it’s operating and it’s got cash flow and income, it may not be able to pay back every cent on the dollar, but the creditors are better off in the long run.”

Atlantic City lawyer Viscount doesn’t believe Donald Trump himself should be held accountable for any of his company’s bankruptcies — his creditors, he said, knew what they were getting themselves into when they lent Trump money over and over again. “They’re all big boys and girls,” he said. “They’ve all played this game before, in the insolvency space. The company that possessed his name filed bankruptcy because it was overleveraged. What does that tell you? People want to lend him money. He does grandiose things with it.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoc...ow-donald-trump-made-bankruptcy-work-for-him/
 
You didn't even know they existed.

I think anyone that has followed business news, even peripherally, would be aware of them. I was. That's why I asked you for your source. I knew you couldn't back it up, sport.
 
I think anyone that has followed business news, even peripherally, would be aware of them. I was. That's why I asked you for your source. I knew you couldn't back it up, sport.
The thing is, you weren't thinking, and that's why you asked for a source even though everyone knows about his bankruptcies.
 
Chapter 11 is nothing more than a tool. Not surprised Harry Hindsight doesn't "get it".

But to those uninitiated in bankruptcy laws, four instances of corporate bankruptcy in a row can seem staggering. “To the ordinary person in the street, it may seem surprising, but certainly not to me,” said Reed Smith partner Michael Venditto, who has represented clients in high profile Chapter 11 cases, including bankrupt airline TWA. “Chapter 11 is how you reshape and restructure a company that has problems. It doesn’t indicate anything nefarious or even bad management.”

More important, said Venditto, are the repercussions Chapter 11 might have for creditors versus, say, liquidation. “You can have a visceral reaction to the fact that this company has gone through Chapter 11 multiple times, but the bondholders look at it and the alternatives are much, much worse. What is an empty casino sitting on the Atlantic City boardwalk worth? If it’s operating and it’s got cash flow and income, it may not be able to pay back every cent on the dollar, but the creditors are better off in the long run.”

Atlantic City lawyer Viscount doesn’t believe Donald Trump himself should be held accountable for any of his company’s bankruptcies — his creditors, he said, knew what they were getting themselves into when they lent Trump money over and over again. “They’re all big boys and girls,” he said. “They’ve all played this game before, in the insolvency space. The company that possessed his name filed bankruptcy because it was overleveraged. What does that tell you? People want to lend him money. He does grandiose things with it.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoc...ow-donald-trump-made-bankruptcy-work-for-him/
Bottom line: cents on the dollar. Repeatedly. And this is your hero? He's going to make things happen for you? Yeah, he's the go-to guy for all your cents-on-the-dollar needs. Forget value added. Trump is all about value evaporated.
 
The Donald is obviously not presidential material. Painfully obvious. They guy gets crazier by the day. The only positive, if you can call it that, is the debate on FOX will be the most highly viewed debate, ever. His continuing popularity also shows just how disgusted people are with the whole screwed up system we have. Sanders is tapping into that as well. The idea of a Clinton vs. Bush campaign makes people ill. Unfortunately for republicans, the DNC won't allow Clinton to be pushed aside by the likes of Sanders. On the other hand, The Donald is going to leave many republican bodies is his wake.
One more thing. I watched the Donald being "grilled" by Bill O last night. I have never seen Bill so weak in an interview. Never. Just a couple of draft dodgers through deferments stroking each other.
 
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Bottom line: cents on the dollar. Repeatedly. And this is your hero? He's going to make things happen for you? Yeah, he's the go-to guy for all your cents-on-the-dollar needs. Forget value added. Trump is all about value evaporated.

The political class has been in a race to the bottom for a long time now...It should come as no surprise that ANYONE who has the temerity to speak out against all of the "sacred cow's" in our culture will reach a certain level of popularity...The GOP strategy of "don't offend anyone" and "play it safe" has, in fact, offended alot of its supporters.
 
The Donald is obviously not presidential material. Painfully obvious. They guy gets crazier by the day. The only positive, if you can call it that, is the debate on FOX will be the most highly viewed debate, ever. His continuing popularity also shows just how disgusted people are with the whole screwed up system we have. Sanders is tapping into that as well. The idea of a Clinton vs. Bush campaign makes people ill. Unfortunately for republicans, the DNC won't allow Clinton to be pushed aside by the likes of Sanders. On the other hand, The Donald is going to leave many republican bodies is his wake.
One more thing. I watched the Donald being "grilled" by Bill O last night. I have never seen Bill so weak in an interview. Never. Just a couple of draft dodgers through deferments stroking each other.


Who exactly do you consider "presidential material?" Hillary and Jeb, since the media are instructing us they are the ones we should support?
 
Who exactly do you consider "presidential material?" Hillary and Jeb, since the media are instructing us they are the ones we should support?
I already stated the idea of Hillary or Jeb is stomach turning. As to your basic question, I would say it's not some nitwit who runs his campaign like it's some reality show called, How provocative can you be? Trump is all show and no substance. While I like him as the cattle prod up the GOP's ass, I wouldn't trust him any further than I could throw him to make life and death decisions.
 
Clinton is going to be a good POTUS. She's smart, experienced and her policies are spot on. And she has one of the best POTUS's as a personal consultant.

I have to laugh at all the fear and gnashing of stained teeth by the right wing dummies at the thought of Hillary as president. They get themselves all worked up for nothing.
 
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