I am sure I am now on a list.

Quote from dcvtss:

Only birdshot won't overpenetrate, but it's not an effective man stopper. Waiting to charge your weapon in the presence of an intruder only gives your position away. The best weapon is one you can hit things with and operate easily under stress, the rest is academic.

A point blank hit from a 12ga. with say no 8 or 9 shot is not a man stopper huh?

I'll make a note of that.
 
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