I am re-shorting AAPL

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anyone coming here.. talking poop about shorting AAPL

POST a screenshot of your long position and target

It's hard to target AAPL since it's being traded to all time highs. However, many analysts have upped their outlook on AAPL yesterday to buy ranging from 315-325. Could it get there??? Possibly.

imo... I think it'll rally to 310... since that's another 50% gain today... of the rally starting in mid March and this number is somewhat close to the analysts expectations.
 
Guys, you were kinda mean to EDT. That being said, it's kind of entertaining seeing his hubristic arrogance get deflated in such an epic way

edit: didn't want to get flamed too hard so I deleted some of it :cool:
 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704830404575200362577226100.html

Seven Reasons Apple Shareholders Should Be Cautious"
Apple investors could be excused for feeling on top of the world. Another blowout quarter has sent the stock booming to another all-time high. The iPad seems to be a success. Everything the company touches seems to turn to gold.

Savor the moment, by all means. But don't get complacent. If you're an Apple shareholder, here are seven things to be concerned about—and one thing you can do about it.


1. Apple's good—but not that good. It's just that the competition is so bad. Nokia, Microsoft, Samsung, Palm: From smartphones to Internet tablets to computers, it's hard to believe so many big companies have blown it so badly. And they've committed mainly unforced errors, such as terrible user interfaces. I bought a non-iPod MP3 player the other day. It's great ... except making playlists is nearly impossible.

As long as the competition acts like this, Apple will keep winning. But its success owes less to the genius of Apple than the incompetence of everyone else. And that's something you can't control.

2. Apple fatigue. Was anything so ridiculous as the coverage of the new iPad? A computer company launched a new computer. Time and Newsweek put it on the cover, for heaven's sake, complete with fawning copy from the likes of Stephen Fry. A lot of people are getting absolutely fed up with this circus. Fashions come, but fashions go. Is Apple becoming overexposed? Right now Steve Jobs could sell his old underwear for $200 a pair (the "iPants"), and the sheep would line up at your local Apple store. If this mania lasts, it will be a first in human history.

3. The share price. At $260, Apple's stock price has more than doubled in a year. Amateur investors say, "It's going up." Present tense. Serious investors say, more accurately: "It has gone up." Past tense. No one knows the future. And the more it rises, the less attractive it gets. It's now 20 times annual cash flow and 5 and a half times annual sales. At $235 billion, the company is being valued at more than Sony, Research In Motion, Dell, Motorola, Nokia, HTC, SanDisk and Palm ... put together. That assumes a lot.

4. Steve Jobs's ego. I don't care how much of a genius he is: Nobody is perfect. Yet Mr. Jobs has been subject to extravagant cheerleading, and it's not as if he was overendowed with a sense of humility to begin with. Bottom line: If and when he makes mistakes, who is going to stop him? A small but telling example: One thing keeping Apple from lots of extra iPhone sales to business users is that Mr. Jobs, for some reason, has a thing against keyboards. There's no business reason for it. It's a silly, unforced error.

5. The cellular networks. At what point will they stop giving away the store? Right now they're paying most of the cost of each new iPhone, and under-charging for the data plans too. That's great for customers and great for Apple, and bad for the networks. The iPhone is an expensive data hog that soaks up airtime, and there's always a risk the networks will start playing tougher. Verizon, which lost out to AT&T three years ago for the right to carry the iPhone in the US, doesn't seem to be suffering as a result. Its investors have done no worse than those of AT&T. And its data traffic just jumped 20%, even without the Apple phone.

6. Apple backlash. As the competition forfeits game after game, Apple is starting to dominate industries from cell phones and games to music and media. Now it looks like it wants to dominate ebooks too. But if Ken Auletta's account in the latest New Yorker is correct, Apple's game plan to defeat Amazon means teaming up with book publishers—and that may mean higher book prices for consumers. How will consumers react? And what will that do for Apple's "friendly," rebel image? Anyway, you can't play the underdog when you're the third-biggest company in the world by market value. Apple is already worth more than General Electric, Wal-Mart, Chevron or Procter & Gamble. It is worth nearly as much as Microsoft. At some point it starts to look like the Big Brother it once vilified. It may even look like the new Microsoft.

7. Steve Jobs's health. This is the "ick" issue. But Apple cheerleaders can't have it both ways. They can't hail Steve Jobs as a visionary genius and the world's greatest CEO, and then say it's none of shareholders' business whether he will still be running the company in three years' time. It's only a year since he had a liver transplant, and investors can hardly feel confident they got all the relevant information clearly and early. We all hope Mr. Jobs enjoys the best of health and lives to a ripe old age. But he still looks worryingly thin. This is something for investors to keep an eye on.

Some of these are issues that could erupt into problems quickly. Others, if they do emerge, would take more time. But if you're a nervous Apple investor, what are your alternatives? Sure you could sell some stock and take your profits. But if you don't want to get off this train quite yet, here's another idea: You could buy some insurance using "put" options. These pay out if the stock falls. So for $19 you can buy $200 puts, good until January 2012. These will limit your downside on the stock to $200. But if Apple keeps booming upwards, all you can lose is the $19.
 
Quote from ASusilovic:

278.13....

^^

ill float a short at this level :P

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Look at the chart formation!
It looks like a giant finger!!! :D

OP says ET ain't his world.
But OP hanging around in the Career Trader Forum all the time.
Wonder what his career is at all.
 
Quote from tmarket:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704830404575200362577226100.html

Seven Reasons Apple Shareholders Should Be Cautious"

Terrible reasons & poor recommendation. The only reason it's not a terrible recommendation is because the risk is limited to about 7% of the stock price. Still, that's about 9 months worth of market returns, hardly chicken feed for a mere 18 months protection. And there is nothing to stop it going to $210 by Jan 2012, then falling to $100 just after your options expire. The only rationale for buying those puts as a hedge is if for some reason you think there is risk of a permanent decline <$200 (in which case you'd not be long the stock at $270), and that you also strangely think that risk only exists between now and Jan 2012, which obviously is ridiculous.

Let me make this clear - if you think APPL is overvalued at $270, then the only course of action as an investor is to sell the stock. Not hedge with puts, not pussyfoot around, not use a stop - just sell.

Let me now cover the 7 reasons and why they are terrible reasons for basing any kind of buy/sell decision on.

1. Competition is so bad. Er, and this is a bear point how exactly? Also, no one back in 2002 said the competition was terrible. They thought Nokia and Microsoft kicked ass. The competition is only terrible because Apple made them terrible in comparison by Steve Jobs obsessive perfectionist approach to design.

2. Apple fatigue. I got Windows fatigue around 1995. That was not a predictive factor for the stock of Microsoft. It has nothing to do with the valuation or investment case. Ditto for Apple today. When you read Security Analysis, not once do they say "A stock is overvalued and must be sold if you personally get tired of press coverage of the business".

3. The share price. He says its doubled. Microsoft doubled in the late 80s. Apple doubled in 2003. That was not a reason to sell. Past share price performance has nothing to do with current valuation. Ditto for the market comparison. By definition, the company that grows market cap the most in a decade is going to regularly overtake the market caps of its peers. That is not evidence that it is overvalued, only evidence that it is being valued more highly for various reasons. If the reasons are legit, such as higher profits and higher future expectations that get met, then the higher valuation is also legit. 20 times earnings is hardly a stratospheric valuation.

4. Steve Jobs ego. Yes, that has worked out so terribly for Apple hasn't it.

5. Cellular networks. Yes, businesses really hate partnering with suppliers who massively increase demand for their services. Doh.

6. Apple backlash. I'll believe it when I see it. Compared to Microsoft and Google, Wal-Mart and Exxon, not to mention the average US mega-cap corporation, I think Apple stacks up fairly well on the image front.

7. Steve Jobs health. Yes, it will tank the stock 10-20% if he dies overnight. Ditto with Buffett. That doesn't mean it was a good idea to sell your BRK stock back in 1980.

This is lazy incompetent blabber masquerading as journalism.
 
Quote from retaildaytrader:

I think Apple has come too far too fast. Talk about the IPHONE on Verizon and the unproven IPAD. My opinion is the stock price has been relentlessly bid up by individuals who have no idea about the company or the stock besides what they see on the tube. The last straw was seeing so many of the so called "experts" on ET pounding the desks saying Apple will go up in leaps and bounds to $350.

I have opened a short position on Apple and expect the low to be at the end of April.

One more week to go.... you've been wrong about one thing. as silly as the ipad sounds... it's been a hot item. as much as i've been trying to resist being part of the 'apple community'... i am not sure about other gadgets currently in demand. imo... the android has been disappointing thus far...
 
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